New CellFactor Vid!

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This is fast becoming my most anticipated game!

If you forgive the slightly poor yet revolutionary blood effects this is simply stunning!

http://www.artificialstudios.com/Gallery/CellFactor_TrailerNew.exe

Its a big bink download but well worth it imo ;)

Roll on physx... i need more money :(

Edit: Heres a little taster...

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And another...

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Apparently so... not sure it will strictly need it as its supposed to be comin out on the 360 aswell and that doesnt have one does it :p there'll probly be a dumbed down version i would think.
 
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Apparently so... not sure it will strictly need it as its supposed to be comin out on the 360 aswell and that doesnt have one does it :p there'll probly be a dumbed down version i would think.
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They can just use a dedicated physics thread.
 
I cant see that being anywhere near the power needed for all those calculations, if it was why would anyone need a physx chip at all?

PhysX = 200 times the physics power of a modern CPU (32000 rigid bodies, 40000 to 50000 particles)
 
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n3x said:
I cant see that being anywhere near the power needed for all those calculations, if it was why would anyone need a physx chip at all?

PhysX = 200 times the physics power of a modern CPU (32000 rigid bodies, 40000 to 50000 particles)
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I can assure you a PhysX chip is not 200 times more powerful than a CPU. It's just more specialised so it performs better on phyiscs calculations. But I suppose the point still stands that a general purpose CPU might not be up to the task of doing the specialised physics work.
 
Psyk said:
I can assure you a PhysX chip is not 200 times more powerful than a CPU. It's just more specialised so it performs better on phyiscs calculations. But I suppose the point still stands that a general purpose CPU might not be up to the task of doing the specialised physics work.
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It will be interesting to see the results though, these things are often overhyped.
 
Not really that impressed - just reminds me of a tech demo made into a game that probably wont live up to the hype, just like Aquanox back when the GF3 was coming out...

Looks like its been made just to sell something - rather play something like Tribes instead ;)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Not really that impressed - just reminds me of a tech demo made into a game that probably wont live up to the hype, just like Aquanox back when the GF3 was coming out...
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That's kind of what I thought. Sure it looks impressive and the technology behind it is really advanced, but will there be good gameplay behind all those fancy physics?
 
n3x said:
Apparently so... not sure it will strictly need it as its supposed to be comin out on the 360 aswell and that doesnt have one does it :p there'll probly be a dumbed down version i would think.
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It does have a physics core. 1 of the consoles 3 cores is dedicated to physics, however, seeing as plenty of the games have FPS drop I can't see this title looking as good as an amazing PC.
 
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It does have a physics core. 1 of the consoles 3 cores is dedicated to physics, however, seeing as plenty of the games have FPS drop I can't see this title looking as good as an amazing PC.
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Does it really? I never knew that. U got any linkys so i can read up?

Looks like its been made just to sell something - rather play something like Tribes instead
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How can you say that doesnt look fun??? :confused: it does also show whats going to be capable in the near future which is nice :)

I can assure you a PhysX chip is not 200 times more powerful than a CPU. It's just more specialised so it performs better on phyiscs calculations. But I suppose the point still stands that a general purpose CPU might not be up to the task of doing the specialised physics work.
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Not my words but those from another website...

- PhysX Physics Processing Unit (PhysX Accelerator) was officially announced March 8th, 2005
- Dedicated chip designed to offload physics calculations from the CPU/GPU to the PPU
- Aimed for video/computer games and other applications
- PCI add-in card (PCI-E version expected further in the future)
- Manufactured by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC)
- Chip: 125 million transistors, 182 sq mm die size, 130nm process, multi-core system (multiple independent processing elements)
- Power consumption: chip = 20 watts (peak), entire PhysX card = 28 watts
- Memory interface: 128bit GDDR3
- Internal read/write memory bandwidth: ~2Tbits/s (terabits per second)
- 200 times the physics power of a modern CPU (32000 rigid bodies, 40000 to 50000 particles)
- Chip is optimized for 32-bit floating-point math
- SDK/API: AGEIA PhysX SDK (formerly called NovodeX), multi-threaded (multi-processors/multi-core CPUs), PhysX native, multi-platform support (PC & consoles)
- PhysX API/SDK supports both software and hardware modes and does not necessarily require a PPU
- PhysX SDK v2.3 was the first public version that supported the PPU and also worked as a software PPU emulation tool
- May be integrated in graphics cards or motherboards in the future
- Only 1 model at launch
- Retail add-in board manufacturers: ASUSTeK Computer & BFG Technologies
- Add-in boards expected to become available in May 2006 (waiting for content)
- Price range: 199-299USD (MSRP 299USD)
- PhysX PPU enabled OEM systems launched in March 22nd, 2006
- OEM launch partners: Alienware, Dell and Falcon Northwest
- Latest free public AGEIA PhysX SDK version: 2.3.2
- Latest AGEIA PhysX driver version: 2.40
 
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n3x said:
- 200 times the physics power of a modern CPU (32000 rigid bodies, 40000 to 50000 particles)
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Chip makers always try to put a spin like that. It's not more powerful, it's just more specialised. If it really was more powerful then why not use it as a normal CPU?

It does have a physics core. 1 of the consoles 3 cores is dedicated to physics, however, seeing as plenty of the games have FPS drop I can't see this title looking as good as an amazing PC.
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Presumably it's up to the developer whether they use it for physics?

That looks quite fun, but whats with the dodgy blood?
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It's using fancy fluid dynamics. Although the techology is impressive it doesn't really look that good. It's too cohesive, it just flows but doesn't leave a mark on anything.
 
Psyk said:
Chip makers always try to put a spin like that. It's not more powerful, it's just more specialised. If it really was more powerful then why not use it as a normal CPU?
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No-one said it was generally more poweful. They are simply saying it can process a hell of a lot more physics calculations than a cpu can do on its own. Which is clear from the footage ive seen.

200 times the "physics power"

There is a clip floating around the internet showing the affect on the cpu with and without the physx chip enabled... it was the 6000 boulders (i think) falling down a hill one. Without the physx chip the cpu was running nearly 100% on all cores and getting single figure framerates. With physx on it was silky smooth with barely any cpu usage at all! Thats pretty good if u ask me.

Its gonna be interesting to see what benchies are like when they are finally released.

Just read that a LAN only mulitplayer demo version of Cellfactor will be shipped with physx cards. :)

EDIT: Found it - http://pcweb.mycom.co.jp/articles/2005/09/13/cedec/images/027.wmv
 
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