New Computer (Gaming)

Doomedspeed · 25 Oct 2013 at 16:07

Custom watercooling is daunting but worth it (appearently, i havn't done it before)..

Heres a good guide for you: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18290835

If you have current cards you can use that'd be a good idea...

Do you want a spec for watercooling or non-watercooling or both?

Gerard93 · 25 Oct 2013 at 16:10

We'll go for both please mate! See what you have to offer seeing as your specs generally look good!

Doomedspeed · 25 Oct 2013 at 16:40

This is my non-watercooled spec:

YOUR BASKET
2 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95 (£859.90)
1 x Benq XL2720T 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99 (£299.98)
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
1 x Mayhems X1 UV Red Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £83.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £83.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £81.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
3 x Corsair AF140 Quiet Series Low Noise High Airflow - Single Pack (CO-9050009-WW) £14.99 (£44.97)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.49
Total : £2,821.21 (includes shipping : £22.20).

NOTE: added the 290X for price reference only, amke sure you get ones with aftermarket coolers (or use your current card until they appear).

My watercooled one will follow...(later)

Doomedspeed · 25 Oct 2013 at 16:47

Watercooled (not many changes)

YOUR BASKET
2 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95 (£859.90)
1 x Benq XL2720T 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99 (£299.98)
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £89.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99 (£171.98)
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £83.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £81.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.49
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
12 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£35.88)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
Total : £3,145.51 (includes shipping : £22.20).

Gerard93 · 26 Oct 2013 at 01:52

Doomedspeed said:
Watercooled (not many changes)

YOUR BASKET
2 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95 (£859.90)
1 x Benq XL2720T 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99 (£299.98)
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £89.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99 (£171.98)
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £83.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £81.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.49
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
12 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£35.88)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
Total : £3,145.51 (includes shipping : £22.20).

Probably go for the water cooling, just gonna ask some of my friends if they know anything of water cooling to help me set it up!

But I need to change the price up a little, seeing as I finally decided to pull the finger out and get driving! (little intensive course with a car to follow soon. ( sorry forgot to mention this in the post earlier ).

Things That I could scrap:

-Monitor ( use my current )
-Hard Drive ( use my current, though keep the SSD's in the list as I dont have any )
-Sound Card (Heard the r290x comes with a sound thingy?)
-Reduce graphics card to one (will xfire in coming months)

Let me know if theres anything else that can be adjusted slightly whilst still maximising performance.

Sorry about the hassle DoomedSpeed, feel bad now

XE11 · 26 Oct 2013 at 07:47

Not sure your finanical situaton. But in my personal opinion, i think 3k is quite a lot of money for a 20 years pld. Especially if u have to dip into ur saving. Computer tech evolve very quickly and when you spend top dollar, improvement wont be huge (say over a 1.5-2k machine). Perhaps it would be better to go for 1.5-2k machine, use it for a while then see where u need to upgrade (if u need it).

Bart_Hunt · 26 Oct 2013 at 07:59

Very true.
I still remember spending over 1k on my i5 and slix2 rig last year and I upgraded recently to haswell and will upgrade gpu to r9 290 (non x) soon, add watercooling for both and you get another 1k or more. Your 3k rig will be old in a year or so so think carefully if you want to spend so much on it.

Doomedspeed · 26 Oct 2013 at 10:01

Gerard93 said:
Probably go for the water cooling, just gonna ask some of my friends if they know anything of water cooling to help me set it up!

But I need to change the price up a little, seeing as I finally decided to pull the finger out and get driving! (little intensive course with a car to follow soon. ( sorry forgot to mention this in the post earlier ).

Things That I could scrap:

-Monitor ( use my current )
-Hard Drive ( use my current, though keep the SSD's in the list as I dont have any )
-Sound Card (Heard the r290x comes with a sound thingy?)
-Reduce graphics card to one (will xfire in coming months)

Let me know if theres anything else that can be adjusted slightly whilst still maximising performance.

Sorry about the hassle DoomedSpeed, feel bad now

Thats fine, don't feel bad..

That is why i do these specs, so people can actually see what thy are asking for and what the price will be..

I've got in down to £2k...

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99
2 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0KRD) £79.99 (£159.98)
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
10 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£29.90)
Total : £1,921.27 (includes shipping : £14.75).

The Loop is still able to take another card so you can add that later (though you'll need to bleed the loop and re-fill it)

I only included 1 SSD as the EVO have rapid mode which (near enough ) doubles there speed.. Im not sure if this works in RAID or not ( i doubt it).. which means you can add another SSD when the funds become available..

Had to change the RAM as the Corsair RED has vanished from the website..

Watercooling wise, do you have any preference on tube res or bay res? or are you not worried.. I've gone with a tube res just because i think it looks better (look at 8-packs rigs) but Bay res (mount in the 5.25" bays) are easier to fix in position..

Is this more the price range?

Gerard93 · 26 Oct 2013 at 21:03

Doomedspeed said:
Thats fine, don't feel bad..

That is why i do these specs, so people can actually see what thy are asking for and what the price will be..

I've got in down to £2k...

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99
2 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0KRD) £79.99 (£159.98)
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
10 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£29.90)
Total : £1,921.27 (includes shipping : £14.75).

The Loop is still able to take another card so you can add that later (though you'll need to bleed the loop and re-fill it)

I only included 1 SSD as the EVO have rapid mode which (near enough ) doubles there speed.. Im not sure if this works in RAID or not ( i doubt it).. which means you can add another SSD when the funds become available..

Had to change the RAM as the Corsair RED has vanished from the website..

Watercooling wise, do you have any preference on tube res or bay res? or are you not worried.. I've gone with a tube res just because i think it looks better (look at 8-packs rigs) but Bay res (mount in the 5.25" bays) are easier to fix in position..

Is this more the price range?

Looks good man! Will wait on the OEM cards coming out for the 290x thats for sure...don't want a noisy system! And is watercooling fairly easy to set up (I know you sent me a link but would you perhaps know from what you've heard, and is it like high risk (leaks and what not?)