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doyll said:
Should I bring you a step-ladder? That horse looks incredibly high from down here.

No.

The posted statement of fact is false because there is no fact to substantiate it.

Somebody besides Vortez needs to review both coolers to prove which is the best.


Yes, bring your step-ladder. mishima and Vortez need it to get back back the credibility they lost. :D
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I honestly get the impression that you have some affliation with NZXT as you're like a staffy with lock-jaw about this.

Vortez made an editorial error and were slightly over-zealous in their conclusion. This error was pointed out (by you) and Vortez via Mishima listened and corrected the error.

You claim the review was published 21hrs ago and whilst that maybe true Mishima stated that the review wasn't publically available and that we had the been given a link to view it ahead of it's public debut. That post is only 12hrs old (at the time of this post)

I've worked on a few sites where articles have been published and not publically released till a later date but it's shown the date the article was created not made public. Happens a lot in CMS type software as it takes the creation date from the database for the publication date.

Despite your protests, I still firmly believe your later viewing of the page was a cached version and neither you or I can really prove that either way.
 
21st Nov 2012, 00:14 #89
Nelly
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First review I've seen so far >> http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_hydro_series_h100i_review,9.html
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Is first I find posted of Vortez review.

Old 21st Nov 2012, 09:35 #91
Resident
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Originally Posted by Nelly View Post
First review I've seen so far >> http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_hydro_series_h100i_review,9.html
Reviews have been slow to come out and Vortez is the only one I've seen so far.

I'm wondering if Corsair asked them to hold off until the software update was released as there was no mention of the fan noise everyone's complained about

Opinions ?
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Is the first time I saw it. (your post)

21st Nov 2012, 09:47 #93
doyll
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The Hydro Series H100i outperforms anything currently on the market and attains the moniker it has been given ‘Extreme’.
How can H100i 120mm x mm x 240mm x 27mm radiator (288sq.cm surface area) outperform NZXT Kraken X60 AIO 138.4 x 27.0 x 280mm radiator (389sq.cm surface area)?
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Is my first post about review

21st Nov 2012, 12:24 #97
mishima
Wise Guy

Our review isn't currently visible on the site (although the link is active) due to Corsair wanting us and other media to hold back for a firmware update until properly publishing. So, meanwhile the article has since been edited.

Doyll your comments are correct regarding "market". Instead it should have been 'what we have reviewed' and this has been picked up by an editor and corrected. Thanks!
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At this time Vortez review as in fact open to the public. I found it by simply googling "h100i"


So mishima told us
*review was not public when it actually was
*took time and thought to write the well worded statement "The Hydro Series H100i outperforms anything currently on the market and attains the moniker it has been given ‘Extreme’."
*then says "Doyll your comments are correct regarding "market". Instead it should have been 'what we have reviewed' and this has been picked up by an editor and corrected. Thanks!" at 21st Nov 2012, 12:24

But at 21st Nov 2012, 12:47 I post "Just opened link from above Google and find this: "The Hydro Series H100i outperforms anything currently on the market and attains the moniker it has been given ‘Extreme’.""

And mishima replys at 21st Nov 2012, 13:20 with "Didn't think I would have to tell you this but, try a force refresh (Ctrl + F5). It has definitely been altered." when in fact I was very careful to be sure my view of website was current and not a cashed copy.

And at 21st Nov 2012, 13:47 I post that Vortez website now has corrected the statement.

Sorry mate but it takes a hell of a lot to rebuild trust after one porky... and there is more than one porky here.

And no apology from mishima or Vortez for the misrepresentation of truth.
 
Helios1234 said:
Technically the review was publicly available but it wasn't on the front page. Anyhow, who cares. Not the first time I've seen editorial mistakes/oversight and certainly not the last.
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I agree, but the writing of the editorial was untruth, not mistakeThe mistake was that it got posted.... But you are right, it won't be the last.

Really wish you were still doing the reviews. ;)
 
Have any Kraken x60's been shipped in the UK yet? From what I've seen they're still on pre-order without a firm date for availability. It strikes me that if you can't actually get a Kraken yet, the H100i only needs to beat the H100 anyway to be the best on the market.

Anyway, cooler looks good though the widely reported QA problems are extremely disappointing. I supposed you should expect to see the Kraken waylay it eventually given that the latter utilises a 280mm radiator; heck I guess that NZXT would be very disappointed if it didn't given the slightly more awkward dimensions required from the size trade-off.

Hopefully Corsair can get things changed quickly and satisfy the RMA needs of those who bit the bullet early.
 
I think pre-ordering is on the market. ;) The Krakens market share won't be as big as 120mm fan CLC. Not as many cases will accept 140mm sized radiators but still a good market.

Would be nice is Corsair got it sorts quickly but that isn't the way their track record has been. :(
 
doyll said:
I agree, but the writing of the editorial was untruth, not mistakeThe mistake was that it got posted.... But you are right, it won't be the last.

Really wish you were still doing the reviews. ;)
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Towards the latter part of my time there, I noticed a lot of inconsistancies in test results being published by the reviewers and it seemed to me that results were simply not being investigated as they should have been. They were just published when it was obvious there were anomalous results or mistakes being made. The lack of thoroughness was part of the reason I left.
 
doyll said:
I think pre-ordering is on the market. ;) The Krakens market share won't be as big as 120mm fan CLC. Not as many cases will accept 140mm sized radiators but still a good market.
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I don't know, if you can't enter a store anywhere in the UK and actually walk out with one, it's not because they're out of stock, and there's no street ETA I can't really describe them as 'on the market' ;). If I did then products announced at CES and then put up for pre-order months in advance on etailer sites would be 'on the market', and that's just silly. ;)

Would be nice is Corsair got it sorts quickly but that isn't the way their track record has been. :(
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In fairness they had similar issues recently with the fans buzzing on their GS-series PSUs which weren't widely reported.
 
It seems although they have cured the grinding noise, They have introduced a high pitch whine. I did notice it when updating this morning but I thought it may of been coming from another part of the system but I hadn't noticed as the corsair grinding noise was covering it up. I posted about the whine on the Corsair Forum and someone else has the high pitch noise as well now. looks like you have a choice between the two evils. It's not as noticeable as the grinding noise though.
 
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doyll said:
Problem is people (like you) keep buying Corsair's defective / damaged products so they have no motivation to improve. Even buy products before any reviews / testing is done to know if they are any good or not. :eek: which is even more confusing. :confused:
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doyll said:
Sorry but all of yo buying this new piece of junk without waiting to see how it performs just proves how gullible the buying market is. Why would anybody knowing how bad Corsair Hydro cooler have been buy a new release without at least seeing some test results ... or better yet waiting for some other poor dumb newbie to fall prey to all the Corsair hype.

I haven't seen a single test review of H100i yet. Obviously nobody got any before they started selling. And all the problems showing up now sure make me believe Corsair was pulling the wool over our eyes big time.
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THEN

doyll said:
I think pre-ordering is on the market. ;) The Krakens market share won't be as big as 120mm fan CLC. Not as many cases will accept 140mm sized radiators but still a good market.

Would be nice is Corsair got it sorts quickly but that isn't the way their track record has been. :(
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After everything you said in this thread your ready to jump on this unreleased and untested kraken x60 hype? dude practice what you preach
 
Stripes said:
I don't know, if you can't enter a store anywhere in the UK and actually walk out with one, it's not because they're out of stock, and there's no street ETA I can't really describe them as 'on the market' ;). If I did then products announced at CES and then put up for pre-order months in advance on etailer sites would be 'on the market', and that's just silly. ;)

In fairness they had similar issues recently with the fans buzzing on their GS-series PSUs which weren't widely reported.
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I think OcUK is marketing the Kraken coolers by advertising it for pre-order. But I can also understand how some may call that only a pre-order and not necessarily marketed ;)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-004-NX&groupid=701&catid=2330&subcat=2262

Hadn't hear about the GS PSU fans buzzing. Wonder if it's using a similar fan?

Elder Guru said:
THEN
After everything you said in this thread your ready to jump on this unreleased and untested kraken x60 hype? dude practice what you preach
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I didn't say I was pre-ordering anything mate.

I said being able to pre-order the Kraken means it's is on the market. ;)
 
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I'm sorry but if I cannot walk into a shop and purchase an item because it's before the official release date for that item then it's not 'on the market'

Pre-sales/orders are just a reservation system/sales gimmick so that you get one from the first released batch to arrive at that store.
 
Hi folks hope someone can advise on this I updated the corsair link 2 software to version 2.2.0
and updated the h100 firmware to 1.0.4 but my fans are noticeably louder on the quiet settings since doing this.

I am not using the supplied fans as I have 2 corsair SP120 performance series fans, these fans were almost silent when
using the quiet settings before the software and firmaware update now after selecting each fan in the corsair link 2 software
and choosing the quiet mode the fans are noticeably louder and the rpm's for quiet mode are around 1700-1755 rpm.

Is anyone else noticing this? I also tried entering a fixed rpm of 1200 but the fans stayed around the same speed??..
 
adriancal said:
Hi folks hope someone can advise on this I updated the corsair link 2 software to version 2.2.0
and updated the h100 firmware to 1.0.4 but my fans are noticeably louder on the quiet settings since doing this.

I am not using the supplied fans as I have 2 corsair SP120 performance series fans, these fans were almost silent when
using the quiet settings before the software and firmaware update now after selecting each fan in the corsair link 2 software
and choosing the quiet mode the fans are noticeably louder and the rpm's for quiet mode are around 1700-1755 rpm.

Is anyone else noticing this? I also tried entering a fixed rpm of 1200 but the fans stayed around the same speed??..
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Run your fans on a splitter from your mainboard header. The controller on the H100i is rubbish. I have far better results using the mainboard header.
 
doyll said:
Is it possible the Kraken X60 is not as good as H100i? Yes. But it is not probable considering it's radiator is 35% bigger and hoses pumps look similar are likely to perform similarly.
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But the H100i has better fans, so its all down to the flow rate really which should be higher than the X60's. Head to head I would expect the h100i to take the X60 going off the data posted in this thread.


doyll said:
I said being able to pre-order the Kraken means it's is on the market. ;)
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No, it just means some places are taking pre-orders and will ship it as soon as its on the market.
 
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