I wonder how many 7900x's have sold compared to the ryzen 1600? Just showing that price doesn't matter.
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I wonder how many 7900x's have sold compared to the ryzen 1600? Just showing that price doesn't matter.
I fail to see what point you're trying to make, cheaper items sell in larger quantities? Who knew.
You said price is everything so in your world the 7900x wouldn't sell at all.
SkyLake-X is in every aspect worse than AMD's chips, far less IPC in gaming, use far more power, run far hotter, can't keep up with Threadripper in productivity, they have no redeeming features, AMD smash them to bits in everyway and yet Intel chips cost more, much more.
It really isn't about price, price does NOT= a better product.
Hope Intel ain't adopting SkyLake-X to cheaply make CoffeeLake because if they do those 6 core i5's and i7's will also be worse than AMD's CPU's.
I said everything is about price, meaning it influences every purchase. Not that we all buy the cheapest items.
Influences? If everything is about price then it's the only thing that influences purchases in your opinion.
Fact is you're wrong and trying to dig your way out of it.
I'm not arguing which is the better chip but pleased to see you agree it isn't all about the price
No, you have misinterpreted. We all take price into consideration when purchasing something. The majority won't spend more for something that offers only minimal benefits.
I'm not arguing which is the better chip but pleased to see you agree it isn't all about the price
The usual justification for Intel's higher prices is that one is paying a premium for a better product.
Just so long as that product isn't asked to do much...
Wasn't misinterpreted at all it's right there on the last page you saying everything is about price then in further posts you've reworded what you've said.
Nobody argued price wasn't a factor, just that it isn't the only factor.
Nobody argued price wasn't a factor, just that it isn't the only factor.
Look at what i put
Not price is everything. The point I was trying to get across is that price influences our decisions.
If it doesn't then well done you obviously have enough money not to care.
If you say so.
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humbug they will be faster in gaming especially.even older chips are faster than ryzen so why would intel release a slower version on a new platform ? ryzen might have the edge for editing and such but for gaming no chance.
90 quid for a better gaming experience isnt much most would pay it.
The usual justification for Intel's higher prices is that one is paying a premium for a better product.
Just so long as that product isn't asked to do much...
The extra threads really showing their worth there. That level of Crysis 3 is insanely reliant on the cpu . I had a 2500k when i first got the game and the framerate tanked to ~30fps in that level. Upgraded to a 3700k overclocked to the same clock and framerate nearly doubled.
In fact that level in Crysis is one of the best examples of an extremely cpu bound situation, regardless of res/graphics card etc. I believe it was all the physics on the moving grass.
4 threads just simply does not cut it.
12 coffee lake threads running in the 4.3-4.7ghz range will likely beat the 1600 soundly in performance though so the OP should wait to see if the current leaked specs for CL are real. We might be looking at perhaps a ~15% ipc advantage and a ~20% clock advantage.
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Kinda glad i went 5820k when i did, and at the time many were going 6700k instead for the higher IPC. See no point in Skylake-x if staying at 6 cores.
Only sad thing for me atm is no worthwhile upgrade for a bit by the looks of it.
Only sad thing for me atm is no worthwhile upgrade for a bit by the looks of it.
the real funny thing is go look at a i9 7900x benchmark for that versus top ryzen 30 fps difference alone on cpu
ryzen struggles at crysis 3 to match most intel chips.
The important thing taken from crysis there was frametimes. Well, across most of the games hes used. Those stutters are irritating and should put an end to people recommending quad cores.
To ask the most important question, to which I see no mention, what or which graphics card do you have/will you be getting?
If you for example have a budget set for a GTX 1070, with the Intel CPU's at the £300, then spend £100 less on the Ryzen 5 1600, and get a GTX 1080 with the change, you'll get 6 cores still, a relatively future proof socket on a cheap motherboard, and most importantly you'll gain loads more FPS from the faster GPU paired with the Ryzen, than you will lose by going Intel 4/6 core with a GTX 1070, especially at 1440p.
If you for example have a budget set for a GTX 1070, with the Intel CPU's at the £300, then spend £100 less on the Ryzen 5 1600, and get a GTX 1080 with the change, you'll get 6 cores still, a relatively future proof socket on a cheap motherboard, and most importantly you'll gain loads more FPS from the faster GPU paired with the Ryzen, than you will lose by going Intel 4/6 core with a GTX 1070, especially at 1440p.
A few weeks?
Last I checked coffelake, has had no official time line for release (or even a vague release date such as Q3 2017). All we have are rumors at the moment.