New Formula 1 Qualifying Rules!

Oh god, now they've agreed the stupid head protection structure for 2017, which looks awful. All the cockpit style ones look so much better, as well as providing more protection.
 
Skeeter said:
Which one, the flip flop?
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It doesn't say just structure, so probably flip flop. They haven't tried any others have they?

Andrew Benson

Chief F1 writer

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Cockpit head protection will be introduced into Formula 1 in 2017, the sport’s bosses have agreed.

A meeting of the rule-making F1 Commission approved plans to adopt a structure to protect drivers from debris, sources at governing body the FIA said.

A new elimination-style qualifying format could also be introduced this year. Its effect is being evaluated over the next week or so before adoption is confirmed.

A deadline for rules to make faster cars in 2017 has been delayed until 30 April.

All the changes still need to be rubber-stamped by the final step of the legislative process, the FIA World Council.
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turned quali into time attack.

The idea sounds ok but i will hold judgement until i see it in action.
It will seem more exciting as cars will go faster and faster burning off fuel but it will just bring tire management into qualifying.

It should be the fastest car is on pole but it could be the car that best manages its tires is on pole.

It could be even worse if a car is s much quicker it can blast in a lap then pit then come out at the end with fresh boots and blitz it.
 
So many more variables. Can't wait

As much as fastest in pole is "right" it just makes races boring
Breaking qualifying surely at least is worth a go to salvage a race
 
What was so wrong with qualifying that they felt the need to change it? Are they trying to sell more Saturday tickets?

Absolutely terrible decision. They'll be introducing trackside sprinklers next to mix it up a bit more...
 
utajoker said:
It will seem more exciting as cars will go faster and faster burning off fuel...
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This is just it, it really wont. A laps worth of fuel is worth a a fraction of a second, whereas the difference between a 1 lap old Ultra Soft and a 10 lap old one is going to be a number of seconds.

You don't see guys out now doing 10 lap runs in Q3 and posting their pole time at the end, because its not the fastest way. The 1st lap of a run is the fastest, not the last, thats why they do single lap stints and then change tyres for fresh ones.
 
Skeeter said:
This is just it, it really wont. A laps worth of fuel is worth a a fraction of a second, whereas the difference between a 1 lap old Ultra Soft and a 10 lap old one is going to be a number of seconds.

You don't see guys out now doing 10 lap runs in Q3 and posting their pole time at the end, because its not the fastest way. The 1st lap of a run is the fastest, not the last, thats why they do single lap stints and then change tyres for fresh ones.
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But would this still be true if hard tyres had to be used?
 
Oh, just a thought too, the teams have already picked their allocation of tyres for the first 4 races of the season, so any changes to qualifying would have to fit with those.
 
LMP2 is going to be very interesting to watch over the next few years. Its moving to a single engine, limited customer chassis manufacturer structure, which aligns closely to what I think F1 should do.

I'm going to follow that closely and see how it does.
 
muon said:
The other main thing people are missing is the spectacle for people actually going to the races. Their opinion carries far more weight than TV viewers who just take an hour out of their day to watch qualifying.
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The FIA doesn't give a stuff about fans at the track. They get their money from the venue long before the first fan goes through the turnstiles, and get paid the same even if there's nobody behind him following.
 
The_Abyss said:
The FIA doesn't give a stuff about fans at the track. They get their money from the venue long before the first fan goes through the turnstiles, and get paid the same even if there's nobody behind him following.
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You don't really understand how that works do you.... for one thing they often get paid long AFTER a race, just because the fee is agreed before doesn't mean they always get paid first. On top of that if a track went bust after a race and before paying they wouldn't get paid.

More importantly, FIA don't think short term, they don't think the next race. If every track agrees a fee this year and no fans turn up... okay maybe the FIA get paid, maybe some of those tracks actually would go bust... but who would pay the FIA next year if there was a 0% chance of making a profit? They'd all close their tracks, find a way out of the contract.

The FIA care more about viewers/subscriptions and tv deals than fans at the track but they still care about the fans at the track. The races need to more often than not make money for the track or no venue would want to hold the races.

businesses care about anything that can make them money and it's pretty silly to pretend they don't.
 
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