new gpu mainly for wow advice please

baldraptor · 13 Jun 2013 at 22:16

flinco said:
The 7770 is maybe 15% ish faster:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/538?vs=536

thanks

ubersonic · 13 Jun 2013 at 22:20

baldraptor said:
I thought my 5770 was DX 11?

Oh it is yes, however you gave the impression it was brita'd, so I just didn't want you making the mistake of replacing it with a <DX11 one

se_vietboi said:
This isn't the first thread where an OP wanted to play WoW and someone or a few were quick to recommend a 7950. Cmon now its WoW we're talking here sheesh.

/facepalm

baldraptor · 13 Jun 2013 at 22:35

ubersonic said:
Oh it is yes, however you gave the impression it was brita'd, so I just didn't want you making the mistake of replacing it with a <DX11 one

Cheers I think it is dead in a few days time

se_vietboi · 14 Jun 2013 at 00:29

baldraptor said:
I realise wow is cpu dependant just didn't want to downgrade from my 5770 by mistake

Sorry for making you misunderstand but I wasn't directly the post to you but towards the suggestions of what is not only overkill but also way out of your budget.

baldraptor · 14 Jun 2013 at 07:47

Was just clarifying

I have not kept up to date with cards so wasn't sure what of the newer cards were the equivalent of my 5770 tbh I am still not 100% sure

ubersonic · 14 Jun 2013 at 08:25

baldraptor said:
Was just clarifying
I have not kept up to date with cards so wasn't sure what of the newer cards were the equivalent of my 5770 tbh I am still not 100% sure

GTX650 (non Ti), start at £80, will give better WoW performance than an equally priced AMD card and be a tad better than the HD5770 so will allow you to maintain the same settings or raise a couple slightly.

baldraptor · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:00

ubersonic said:
GTX650 (non Ti), start at £80, will give better WoW performance than an equally priced AMD card and be a tad better than the HD5770 so will allow you to maintain the same settings or raise a couple slightly.

cheers I will have a look -do you think this would be a better idea than going for one of the cheaper 7770 cards ?

ubersonic · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:06

Hard to say, for WoW, yes but for pretty much any other game I would say no. However I'm not seeing any 7770's that cheap just 7750's which perform equal or lower than the 5770 in some games.

baldraptor · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:14

ubersonic said:
Hard to say, for WoW, yes but for pretty much any other game I would say no. However I'm not seeing any 7770's that cheap just 7750's which perform equal or lower than the 5770 in some games.

well this weeks offer is Sapphire HD 7770 GHz Edition 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £89.99
or the only other one is the
MSI HD 7770 GHz Edition 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card for the same price
or I can get a new Leadtek WinFast Nvidia GTX 650 Ti 650Ti 1024MB GDDR5 for £79.99 elsewhere
so many choices -thanks for the help by the way

4737Joker · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:33

I'm running wow maxed out on a 7850 runs at over 100fps the majority of the time.

I wouldn't bother buying anything more than that tbh if it's just for wow. You could probably buy something cheaper or just grab a second hand card and save a few quid.

ubersonic · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:43

4737Joker said:
I'm running wow maxed out on a 7850 runs at over 100fps the majority of the time.

What resolution is that at? and by maxed out do you mean every setting at max or most of them and others turned down? sorry but 100FPS on a HD7850 at max settings is a bit comical unless your standing in the Darnassus AH

NB: if your seeing >60FPS a lot you should enable Vsync or the games frame limiter as the game is designed for 60FPS and going over it can cause visual anomalies.

baldraptor · 14 Jun 2013 at 09:48

the 7850 is £150 way above my poor budget at the moment though that's why I was asking about the 3 cards above

chid76 · 14 Jun 2013 at 10:19

It looks like the 650ti would be a decent chunk faster than your 5770. That seems like a good choice for your budget

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/538?vs=680

se_vietboi · 14 Jun 2013 at 10:54

650Ti over 7770 unless you can find a 560Ti or 6950 second hand for your budget.

howayman · 14 Jun 2013 at 11:42

The 6970 does too. However if he is just playing wow in the main then a 7750 DDDR5 would do the job. Its very power efficient too.

Clav · 14 Jun 2013 at 11:52

baldraptor said:
Was just clarifying
I have not kept up to date with cards so wasn't sure what of the newer cards were the equivalent of my 5770 tbh I am still not 100% sure

Tomshardware do a round up of graphics cards every month including a heirarchy chart that shows equivalent and relative performances. It is a handy read.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32693-7.html

Rilot · 14 Jun 2013 at 12:15

Just to add my 2p.
I'm a big WoW player and I recently switched from a 6970 to a GTX670 and saw a huge performance boost. Not just from a raw framerate perspective but from a general smoothness perspective too. Framerates seem to be more stable and consistent between high population areas, raids and general world stuff.

As has been said, WoW is CPU limited. I have a 2500k @ 4.6GHz and 25-man raids will bring my system to it's knees sometimes.

Also, if you ever plan to go multi-monitor with WoW then it has to be nVidia. Ati Eyefinity doesn't work with WoW in fullscreen mode so you have to use windowed-fullscreen which is a big performance loss. Also, you don't have to mess about with DP-DVI adaptors.

For me, WoW has to be nVidia if you are replacing the card.

howayman · 14 Jun 2013 at 12:23

My xfx 6970 oc has always performed admirably in 25 man raids. I run a fx4100 at 4.5ghz and on ultra there has never ever been a problem. It does 100fps on a bad day too. Though not in a 25 man raid ofc

baldraptor · 14 Jun 2013 at 12:34

Rilot said:
Just to add my 2p.
I'm a big WoW player and I recently switched from a 6970 to a GTX670 and saw a huge performance boost. Not just from a raw framerate perspective but from a general smoothness perspective too. Framerates seem to be more stable and consistent between high population areas, raids and general world stuff.

As has been said, WoW is CPU limited. I have a 2500k @ 4.6GHz and 25-man raids will bring my system to it's knees sometimes.

Also, if you ever plan to go multi-monitor with WoW then it has to be nVidia. Ati Eyefinity doesn't work with WoW in fullscreen mode so you have to use windowed-fullscreen which is a big performance loss. Also, you don't have to mess about with DP-DVI adaptors.

For me, WoW has to be nVidia if you are replacing the card.

so do you think the 650 ti at £79.99 (its the 1024 version not the 2 )is the way to go for the money?
thanks for the advice too

Zeed · 14 Jun 2013 at 12:34

Well guys there you go 3 people here can see why my 5ghz sandy is not always enough for wow in 3d

TBH i think 4.8ghz haswell should have enough IPS to not be cpu bound on 64bit wow client

Interesting thing is that going from 1640mhz 9/9/9/24 to 2172 9/10/10/24 gave me 5 minimum fps in 3d on 25m LFR raids.mZeeds back in the game minimum fps after memory upgrade I seen is 24

where before on LFR 25ms i was droping to below 20 :/