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scotty38

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Hi all,

I'm new here because I want a new PC so no surprises there....

I want it for astro image processing, mainly for PixInsight if anyone is aware of it. At the moment 99% of the application won't use a GPU which is why you won't see one in my build but will use all the CPU cores you can throw at it.

With that in mind I have cobbled together the list below but would welcome thoughts on where I could do better given my comments re GPU etc. No doubt I will add one at some point but not right now. I also went with this particular processor because there is no GPU on my list plus for the number of cores etc.

Anyway this is where I am at the minute if you could advise please:

QuantityStock IDDescriptionPriceTotal
1MB-6J9-ASAsus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard£349.99£349.99
1CP-3DE-AMAMD Ryzen 9 7950X Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail£629.99£629.99
1MY-4DF-CSCorsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK32GX5M2D6000Z36)£199.99£199.99
1HD-248-SASamsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive£119.99£119.99
1SW-18K-MSMicrosoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM (FQC-10528)£164.99£164.99
1HS-01C-BQbe quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler£79.99£79.99
1BU-00B-LLLian Li Lancool II ARGB Midi-Tower Case - White with Corsair RM Series RM650£149.75£149.75
£1,694.69

Many thanks in advance.
 
That's great thanks and yes I have a NAS already so purposely left off the storage. I didn't realise the memory limitation with the CPU and yes was thinking I'd buy more later if needed so that is definitely good to know.
My thoughts on GPU was maybe something like a 3060 as and when so would I need a better PSU for one of those. Happy to add it now if you have a suggestion.
For the OS do you mean another supplier or something else? I probably could do "something else" if I give it some thought. Not that it's relevant but will make it dual boot with Linux too.

On reading a few threads I started to see mentions of size with coolers so does that look ok or should I consider something else, even water, although that would generate some more questions for sure.
As it is I think the case comes with three fans so would I still need another anyway for getting rid of the warm air?

Thanks again for the feedback.
 
Thanks again and now you have me looking at liquid coolers. I know you mentioned a specific one but assuming that was price comparison related would there be any advantage to getting a cooler the same make as the case? Just thinking compatibility/ease of fitting etc....

Also just for my education and going back to the 2 vs 4 DIMMs I had sort of assumed the AMD5 supporting motherboards were just that so if those processors cannot use 4 x DIMMS why does the MB have the slots for them?
 
okey dokey I amended the kit and ignored your cooler suggestion ;) but is this one ok? Given the memory question too I had a look on the AMD site so have changed the memory to slightly slower as I read these CPUs only officially support 5200 so now have this:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,643.80 (includes delivery: £14.10)​



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Thanks again for that. I did post my updated list with the Galahad but it's awaiting approval plus I changed the memory to 5200 as I saw on the AMD site that was the speed supported for 2 DIMMs
 
Thanks both I read exactly that and assumed they must mean the top. I guess it means I should change to the 240mm version so will that be sufficient or should I look at a different case?
 
I am new to this, not new to computing per se, but it's a long, long time since I built a machine so you'll to forgive me if some things are a bit off.... I've read that having a cooler at the front can be an issue, at least for GPU cooling, which I know I don't have yet, but when you say better cooling do you mean better than a 240 in the roof?

For my use, at the minute, the processor is important so I'm assuming I wouldn't want eco mode on the whole so I'm reading into this a bigger case and roof mounted 360. Looking at cases I see that a lot at this price level won't support a 360mm in the roof so what am I trying to do different here compared to the norm as plenty of folk must be using these cases?
 
Haz123 said:
If you have a front mounted AIO that drops the cpu heat into the case then you will have slightly lower cpu temps and slightly higher gpu temps. If you mount an AIO in the roof it will be the reverse and comparitively higher cpu temps and lower gpu temps. The difference in performance is very very minor and you could have 2 identical systems alongside each other and not notice a difference unless you were actively checking the temps and benchmarking. If you were to go for a relatively low power gpu such as the 3060 it would not make a lot of difference if the aio was mounted in the front or top

You can go for a larger case where you can mount a 360 ( or even the Artic Liquid Freezer II 420 which is the best AIO you can get ) in the roof but I think you would be perfectly good with my original suggestion of the Arctic LF II 240.

Better cooling means whatever dissipates heat at a faster rate. Faster you remove the heat from the cpu the more performance you will get but I would not get hung up on this area because there are diminishing returns.
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ok that all makes sense and appreciated. I'll take your advice and also swap out the galahad for the arctic. Are they generally better performing devices then?
 
 
mickyflinn said:
I still would want a better cooler than a 240mm preferably 360mm especially if your going to load them 16 cores .
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Many thanks.
I think as has been mentioned unless I start moving fans around etc etc that would mean a different case.

What would you advise, changing the configuration of the existing case or changing cases?
 
Thanks and re the GPU, none to start with as my main use for this (PixInsight astro image processing) doesn't really utilise a GPU right now. That's not entirely accurate but it's additional processes like Starnet2, NXT and so on that use it so no big deal (to me) at the minute.

There are plans to change this so if it were to happen "tomorrow" I'd probably go for a 3060.

By the way I'm seeing a message below the posts saying I can post in here in 7 hours... It seems I can edit this post but maybe I will not be able to reply.
Have I done something wrong?
 
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mickyflinn said:
That's fine 3060


Here is a list of AM5 coolers on overclockerss if you want to check them out, the aerocool mirage 360mm looks a good value option if you decide to go bigger.


AM5 Coolers

Keep your AMD Ryzen 7000 Series CPU at optimum temperatures with an AM5 cooler from Overclockers UK, ideal for quickly and efficiently dissipating heat.
www.overclockers.co.uk www.overclockers.co.uk
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Thanks and I must admit I'm torn here now as I had sort of decided to go with the Arctic 240mm if putting it in the top. It's not a huge jump to the 360 so would that still be a better bet over the Aerocool if I'm going for a front mounted unit?

Having said that the A-RGB 360 is on preorder and I can't see any info on when that might land unless anyone has a view????
 
Craig_d1 said:
if you like the lancool case the lancool III allows a 360mm aio in roof...bit more money though, but I like that the sides swing out though..easy for cleaning/tinkering
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I'd not seen the III listed as I was looking in a different section but thanks for adding to the price :-)

The Lancool II was in a bundle with the PSU so I added the same one manually and here we are, just a shame the Arctic doesn't come in white... What on earth have you folk done to me....

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,729.55 (includes delivery: £14.70)​



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Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MB-6J9-AS
£280 (incl. VAT)
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DE-AM
£600 (incl. VAT)
£450 (incl. VAT)
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Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case - White
CA-7AZ-LL
£160 (incl. VAT)
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Hi again, just one last thing (I think) but is there anything else I need to get this build working? I'm speaking about cables, adapters etc rather than monitor, keyboard and the like?
 
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