New iPhone on the way...what does this mean?

a nice change would be to give it proper functionality with all ipod stuff... i'm sick of seeing "this product is not compatible with the iphone" or whatever the message is that pops up with you try to plug it into some funky speaker device or charger etc...

The iPhone requires a clean(er) 5V supply.

Also, wasn't the 30 pin connector slightly modified on the 3G model?
 
The iPhone requires a clean(er) 5V supply.

Also, wasn't the 30 pin connector slightly modified on the 3G model?
dunno, it definitely physically fits in the slots perfectly fine and most of the time will play music but will rarely (read:never) charge...
 
dunno, it definitely physically fits in the slots perfectly fine and most of the time will play music but will rarely (read:never) charge...

Yes, it's the same connector, but the physical pin configuration was swapped around when they brought out the 3G

Much to the peripheral vendor's annoyance as they had spent months making iPhone V1 accessories etc

It's also the same reason why the FireWire cable no longer charges an iPhone.

http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_dock

Has anyone actually seen any evidence of this beyond a patent?

There was a mention of "iPhone 2,1" in the latest firmware file, which signifies a hardware rev.

Also, some ad serving websites have multiple evidence that a "iPhone 2,1" device had been used to access their sites, specifically in the San Fransisco Bay area (where Apple is based), as they did with the original iPhone.
 
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There was a mention of "iPhone 2,1" in the latest firmware file, which signifies a hardware rev.

Also, some ad serving websites have multiple evidence that a "iPhone 2,1" device had been used to access their sites, specifically in the San Fransisco Bay area (where Apple is based), as they did with the original iPhone.
Surely such a minor revision change as a .1 could be something as small as a better battery! lol.
If it was the changes that everyone are predicting, then surely it'd be revision 3.0?
 
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Surely such a minor revision change as a .1 could be something as small as a better battery! lol.
If it was the changes that everyone are predicting, then surely it'd be revision 3.0?
The iPhone 2G was model 1,1
The iPhone 3g is model 1,2
Hence the reason why 2,1 is being seen as a major update
 
New iPhone will have better battery and better GPU.

Battery is too crap for gaming (playing free crappy games drains iPod Touch 2g and iPhone 3G in my experience).

GPU will be better (it's already had some changes as V2 devices run games "better" than V1 devices).

Better battery, better GPU = More gaming apps. Most people have realised most of the apps on appstore are crap, just in time for this to occur, they will release this new version which will be more game sentric (in terms of hardware). This will be followed by a year of crap games being released on app store.


rp2000
 
As long as I can jailbreak the bugger and tailor it the way I WANT, I'll be really happy. I was tired of the appstore long ago tbh.
 
New iPhone will have better battery and better GPU.

rp2000

...and it will come with free Hot Grits for a year. See I'm guessing just like you (and others here).

OK your guess might be more likley!

As long as I can jailbreak the bugger and tailor it the way I WANT, I'll be really happy. I was tired of the appstore long ago tbh.

Read: I was tired of paying for Apps. ;)

Anyway, you can jailbreak the 3G so I don't think you'd have any issues with iPhone 3.5G whenever it decides to rear its head.
 
do most people actually jailbreak? i've never played with a jailbroken (?) phone so don't know what i'm missing i guess but the whole idea of not being able to update to the latest firmware until the hack is released and the overall hassle of it has put me off...

is it commonplace between you lot?
 
do most people actually jailbreak? i've never played with a jailbroken (?) phone so don't know what i'm missing i guess but the whole idea of not being able to update to the latest firmware until the hack is released and the overall hassle of it has put me off...

is it commonplace between you lot?

It's fairly common. My iPhone 2G was Jailbroken/Unlocked when I was on T-Mobile before I moved my number to an O2 SIM.

Now I am "Legit" I haven't bothered. There are a few apps on the Jailbroken side that look useful but there is also a load of tosh that unlike the tosh on the App Store tends to crash a lot as it hasn't been through the approval process.

Jailbreaking is worth it if you don't mind waiting everytime the Firmware is updated.

However I find the App Store fits my needs so I haven't bothered
 
Read: I was tired of paying for Apps. ;)
lol hardly. I've got loads of paid for apps from the appstore. Except the appstore has hardly any useful customisation utilities or productivity apps - why? Because you have to adhere to Apple's stupid rules which hamper their very own product. The appstore imo is fast being a total pos because no one wants to dedicate time to developing quality apps when you can make heaps from a 50p gimmick one.

Jailbreak has always had heaps of utilities and customisation options, rather than pansy, pointless games which drain your battery inside a few hours. Imo if you want to use your phone to the best potential then jailbreak the bugger and gain access to features Apple want to reserve for themselves.
 
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lol hardly. I've got loads of paid for apps from the appstore. Except the appstore has hardly any useful customisation utilities or productivity apps - why? Because you have to adhere to Apple's stupid rules which hamper their very own product. The appstore imo is fast being a total pos because no one wants to dedicate time to developing quality apps when you can make heaps from a 50p gimmick one.

Jailbreak has always had heaps of utilities and customisation options, rather than pansy, pointless games which drain your battery inside a few hours. Imo if you want to use your phone to the best potential then jailbreak the bugger and gain access to features Apple want to reserve for themselves.

What specific apps? You make it sound like there are 100's of apps you use that do not exist on app store because of the rules? RSS readers? MMS apps? How many apps do you have installed?


rp2000
 
What specific apps? You make it sound like there are 100's of apps you use that do not exist on app store because of the rules? RSS readers? MMS apps? How many apps do you have installed?
rp2000
I've got 6 pages of stuff from Cydia on jailbreak. Lets see off the top of my head.

MMS/SMS apps - Besides Swirly, there are SMS apps that give you sms forwarding and landscape views by default.
Cycorder - Video recording.
SBS Settings - Similar to bosstools, enabling you to switch off iPhone services at the press of a button, as well as kill running processes, fast reboots etc.
Pdanet - Use your 3G's modem as a tether for wireless connectivity on your laptop.
Backgrounder - Run or launch apps that can run in the background. A boon for iRC and eReader.
Theming - Of course customise the phone the way you want.
FiveIconDock - Can't live without it now.
iPhone Blacklist - A call blacklist app.
Clippy ala Cut & Paste - No explanation needed.
ScummVM - Not tried it yet because I prefer not to kill my battery.

When Apple released their 'guidelines' towards App development, I predicted that we'd see a plethora of games and daft apps, the former of which was just not suited to our current iPhones. I'm disappointed to see they still haven't [edit: relaxed] any plans as of yet to change that. More iFart and CallMom apps I guess.
 
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do most people actually jailbreak? i've never played with a jailbroken (?) phone so don't know what i'm missing i guess but the whole idea of not being able to update to the latest firmware until the hack is released and the overall hassle of it has put me off...

is it commonplace between you lot?

I had my iPhone for about a month before jailbreaking it, it only took me that long due to fears of bricking it ala my psp. I'm glad I did though just for programs like irealsms and switlymms (which unlike the app store mms app doesn't cost you to send messages - they are taken from your inclusive o2 allowance).

All my mates have now jailbroken their phones after seeing mine.
 
I've got 6 pages of stuff from Cydia on jailbreak. Lets see off the top of my head.

MMS/SMS apps - Besides Swirly, there are SMS apps that give you sms forwarding and landscape views by default.
Cycorder - Video recording.
SBS Settings - Similar to bosstools, enabling you to switch off iPhone services at the press of a button, as well as kill running processes, fast reboots etc.
Pdanet - Use your 3G's modem as a tether for wireless connectivity on your laptop.
Backgrounder - Run or launch apps that can run in the background. A boon for iRC and eReader.
Theming - Of course customise the phone the way you want.
FiveIconDock - Can't live without it now.
iPhone Blacklist - A call blacklist app.
Clippy ala Cut & Paste - No explanation needed.
ScummVM - Not tried it yet because I prefer not to kill my battery.

When Apple released their 'guidelines' towards App development, I predicted that we'd see a plethora of games and daft apps, the former of which was just not suited to our current iPhones. I'm disappointed to see they still haven't [edit: relaxed] any plans as of yet to change that. More iFart and CallMom apps I guess.

Sounds like you are not a normal iPhone user tbh and as such are probably in a small minority. Granted I don't know too many people with iPhones or iPod Touch, but you have like 100 apps on yours!!! Most people do not even have 100 apps on their main computers let alone iPhone.

I suspect you would not have 100 if you had to pay for them ala appstore :)

The kind of apps you listed, maybe a windows smartphone would be more up your street as it can do a lot of stuff u have added, by default.


rp2000
 
Not sure where I stated I have a hundred apps, but I think you'll find that most users have around 5+ pages of apps/weblinks on their Touch/Phones on average.

The kind of apps I've listed are your average apps that appear on smartphones. They're nothing special, nor impressive. My ancient Nokia 6600 could do all of the features mentioned above out of the box via its Symbian OS. They're just standard apps that the iPhone deserves and customers should have access to. Except Apple would rather hamper that maybe for themselves.

I'd easily have a ton of paid for apps on appstore - if they existed there and they clearly don't. My last app from Appstore was Rooms - an iRC app, which I now run in the background. No idea where the mentality that jailbreakers don't want to pay for apps comes from.
 
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