New Labour, was it worth it?

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After watching this interesting documentary if left me asking, New Labour, was it worth it?


Was the country really in a bad way in 1997, what would have happened if the Tories had remained in power and the New labour revolution had never happened, would there have been a larger division between the poor and the wealthy or would the Tories have been forced to readjust their policies regarding wealth distribution and social opportunities to allow us to compete on a global platform.

So was it all just champagne socialism that never really needed to happen or did New Labour really change the country and world as GB once said for the better?
 
Well at least there has been no more boom and bust which they promised to have delivered. Oh wait...
 
jsmoke said:
After watching this interesting documentary if left me asking, New Labour, was it worth it?


Was the country really in a bad way in 1997, what would have happened if the Tories had remained in power and the New labour revolution had never happened, would there have been a larger division between the poor and the wealthy or would the Tories have been forced to readjust their policies regarding wealth distribution and social opportunities to allow us to compete on a global platform.

So was it all just champagne socialism that never really needed to happen or did New Labour really change the country and world as GB once said for the better?
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Well lets look at what 12 years of the Tories have given us.
 
Tories would have done a v similar job. Similarly I think labour would have done a similar job to the tories over the last several years.

Certain circumstances make life easy/difficult for whoever’s in charge in my books.
 
LabR@t said:
They destroyed this country.

If you are old enough to know the UK before then
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I think the damage was already done.

1997 was amongst some of the best years this country has ever had, 25 years later now? It's all gone to ****.
 
BUDFORCE said:
I think the damage was already done.

1997 was amongst some of the best years this country has ever had, 25 years later now? It's all gone to ****.
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New Labour came to power in 1997. If that was amongst the best years the country has had then it wasn't New Labour that brought it in. Economic situations take years to change. 1997 would have been the work of previous governments.

However what came after them was an utter **** show.
 
Hades said:
New Labour came to power in 1997. If that was amongst the best years the country has had then it wasn't New Labour that brought it in. Economic situations take years to change. 1997 would have been the work of previous governments.

However what came after them was an utter **** show.
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You've literally just contradicted yourself.
 
Iraq/Afghanistan to one side, I still hold Blair and the labour government of that era to high regard. New labour achieved more than people like to remember.
 
shifty_uk said:
Iraq/Afghanistan to one side, I still hold Blair and the labour government of that era to high regard. New labour achieved more than people like to remember.
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I feel the same, even though I voted Lib-Dem during the Labour elections and in most elections since. The reason why New Labour did so well is because their manifesto appealed to the centre, left of centre and right of centre. That put together is most of the general population, leaving out the moderate and far left and right.

The other thing to remember is that the Tories lost their overall majority months before the 1997 election due to resignations and defections.
 
BUDFORCE said:
You've literally just contradicted yourself.
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I literally haven't. I am saying the economic situation was inherited by New Labour. It had to be if 1997 was apparently one of the best years the country had. They came to power in 1997 so the conditions of that time could not have been caused by NL.

I then said that what has come after NL has been a **** show.

Those statements do not contradict each other.
 
Still bitter they brought in university fees as I was leaving school, people still go on about Maggie taking away milk but removing University access probably had a far bigger impact for poorer people to do better for themselves.
Tax credits although good on paper but gets people stuck in a poverty trap where a pay rise could see them loose a decent chunk of income. They needed to bring in decent reforms rather than the band-aid.

Brown did do a decent job dealing the housing market crash, even though you could argue labour could have been more proactive to protect our economy in the first place, it's easy to forget he was a key player in getting governments to put billions into the economy.
 
New Labour and especially Tony Blair will be remembered for it's foreign interventionist policies rather then the economic management. In 1997 Labour was gifted a country with low interest rates, low inflation and strong economy, the best move Gordon Brown done in his time as CoE was keeping with the Tory spending plans for the first couple of years before opening up the taps on additional wealth fare plans.
 
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