New Metal Gear Solid 4 Footage
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Couple of things that annoy me about that video :-
1 / Poor AI - In that vid they must have turned down the AI. They dont even react to him walking loudly behind them! Also when hes camo'd on the floor, and the soldier looks straight past him.
2/ Barrel - Pop up and roll, wtf. That game looks so visually good, the barrel popping up out of nowhere looks out of place.
3/ Unlimited Arsenal of Weaponry - In most games this dosent annoy me, but with this, becuase it looks so realistic and you can see snake so muchfrom a 3rd person view it just looks odd when he plucks an RPG from where-ever he keeps it. Pocket, Anus, your choice.
3/ Being sick - WTF. Yep im sure thats how a Elite Solider acts.
4/ BIG ONE and most annoying - That the game dosent know if its serious or humerous. From the videos leading up until this point, (cutscene parts) the game looks serious, you play a charecter thats a Hardcore Killing Machine and that really made me excited about it. This gameplay video just made me go; hand on, are they taking the **** or what? I just wish they could just dicide if they were making a serious stealth action game (like SC) or some sort of visually apealling MGS spoof.
Other than that it didnt really impress me that much. Yes visuals are pretty dam special and some nice little touches (animations and little robot fella) but generally disapointed. Mates that have also seen the video agree too.
1 / Poor AI - In that vid they must have turned down the AI. They dont even react to him walking loudly behind them! Also when hes camo'd on the floor, and the soldier looks straight past him.
2/ Barrel - Pop up and roll, wtf. That game looks so visually good, the barrel popping up out of nowhere looks out of place.
3/ Unlimited Arsenal of Weaponry - In most games this dosent annoy me, but with this, becuase it looks so realistic and you can see snake so muchfrom a 3rd person view it just looks odd when he plucks an RPG from where-ever he keeps it. Pocket, Anus, your choice.
3/ Being sick - WTF. Yep im sure thats how a Elite Solider acts.
4/ BIG ONE and most annoying - That the game dosent know if its serious or humerous. From the videos leading up until this point, (cutscene parts) the game looks serious, you play a charecter thats a Hardcore Killing Machine and that really made me excited about it. This gameplay video just made me go; hand on, are they taking the **** or what? I just wish they could just dicide if they were making a serious stealth action game (like SC) or some sort of visually apealling MGS spoof.
Other than that it didnt really impress me that much. Yes visuals are pretty dam special and some nice little touches (animations and little robot fella) but generally disapointed. Mates that have also seen the video agree too.
Phalanx said:
when has MGS "ever" been like splinter cell ?
sure splinter cell copied loads of the game play but theyre still completley different and always have been afaic
that camo thing might seem silly but MGS has never been about realism has it , that feature will add something to the game , gives it something extra over just been a generic stealth em up
to me this looks amazing , the graphics look great , the gameplay in MGS games is always great , the storys and cinematics should be great too
this and GTA4 are the only games im excited about at the moment , my 2 favourite series by far
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Sime said:Couple of things that annoy me about that video :-
1 / Poor AI - In that vid they must have turned down the AI. They dont even react to him walking loudly behind them! Also when hes camo'd on the floor, and the soldier looks straight past him.
2/ Barrel - Pop up and roll, wtf. That game looks so visually good, the barrel popping up out of nowhere looks out of place.
3/ Unlimited Arsenal of Weaponry - In most games this dosent annoy me, but with this, becuase it looks so realistic and you can see snake so muchfrom a 3rd person view it just looks odd when he plucks an RPG from where-ever he keeps it. Pocket, Anus, your choice.
3/ Being sick - WTF. Yep im sure thats how a Elite Solider acts.
4/ BIG ONE and most annoying - That the game dosent know if its serious or humerous. From the videos leading up until this point, (cutscene parts) the game looks serious, you play a charecter thats a Hardcore Killing Machine and that really made me excited about it. This gameplay video just made me go; hand on, are they taking the **** or what? I just wish they could just dicide if they were making a serious stealth action game (like SC) or some sort of visually apealling MGS spoof.
Other than that it didnt really impress me that much. Yes visuals are pretty dam special and some nice little touches (animations and little robot fella) but generally disapointed. Mates that have also seen the video agree too.
There has always been a joke element to the series, I don't see how it's any different this time.
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because the ps3 must crash and burn this time so people ignore the last games
the people laughing at that barrel and the magazine cant of played the early games which also had those features ( albeit cardboard box instead ) , the early games also had you just pulling out weapons from nowhere
they can get away with things like that , it is just a game after all
the being sick thing is obviously to stop you just going through the whole game rolling into enemys in a barrel
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I assume all the people in here who don't think it is anything special are now quite relived ([edit] i think relived is the wrong word here) it isn't going onto the 360?
I can't help but think if this had been E3 and Peter Moore pull Kojima on stage to show this off as a major coup for MS everybody would think it looks gorgeous. As it is a PS3 exclusive, and this is ocuk, many folks on here, who don't have a PS3 and have expressed little/no intension of getting one are now saying it doesn't look good.
Makes me laugh tbh.
I can't help but think if this had been E3 and Peter Moore pull Kojima on stage to show this off as a major coup for MS everybody would think it looks gorgeous. As it is a PS3 exclusive, and this is ocuk, many folks on here, who don't have a PS3 and have expressed little/no intension of getting one are now saying it doesn't look good.
Makes me laugh tbh.
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Sime said:
1. Already explained that it is on easy difficulty
2. Yeap is a bit silly, but expect it to change tbh
3. Yeah remember DEMO! think he is gonna show up to a demo and say 'Listen can only show you 3 guns as some folk think it will be unrealistic if i show you all the guns we can use.
4. you don't think soldiers get sick
5. I presume you have never played any of the past 3 Metal Gear Solid games? Or even seen any of the trailers for the game? Anyone remember the E3 '05 trailer 'This is no FPS, this is MGS!' that was one of the best trailers i had seen in ages, and it was on the MGS3 engine iirc.
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i was waiting for him to pull a rabbit out, lol
Looks nice, will sell and help shift PS3 units, nothing that the 360 couldn't do and again another game thats grey
Looks nice, will sell and help shift PS3 units, nothing that the 360 couldn't do and again another game thats grey
Another game that is grey because that is a general theme with many forms of media when dealing with Arabian type settings. Movies etc, they all have a brown/grey hue to them, so it is perfectly understandable that it does look dark. How many images have you seen of deset towns/dwellings that is vibrant of colour? Even if you look at GRAW, set in mexico it looks dull, but that is the setting.
Do you want every game to look neon and cartoony with severe over use of HDR like many 360 games do?
And why does it have to be something the 360 couldn't do? for a start it is something the 360 can't do because it isn't coming out on that system.
Why does every thread need to turn into a hardware comparison thread with some folk on here?
I guess the 360 fanboys will be glad to have you back on side.
Do you want every game to look neon and cartoony with severe over use of HDR like many 360 games do?
And why does it have to be something the 360 couldn't do? for a start it is something the 360 can't do because it isn't coming out on that system.
Why does every thread need to turn into a hardware comparison thread with some folk on here?
I guess the 360 fanboys will be glad to have you back on side.
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lol, look i did say it looked nice and would help shift the PS3, but you must admit a lot of games have a real naff colour palette on the PS3. This, Kilzone 2, RFOM, seems to be a trend or something that the PS3 needs to do to keep a constant framerate, who knows?, me personally hate the mgs series after the first 2 games which where great, it became too silly, will it stop me buying a PS3 next year again, no not really, but i'm still waiting for that Killer game to appear it seems
I gotta agree MGS2 wasn't the best metal gear game lol
I agree that whilsts the colour pallet is lacking somewhat, for want of a better expression, war is a bit grey.
I thought RFOM lacked colour too when i first played it, but then realising that was the art direction they took. I watched the first few band of brothers after playing RFOM and thought it was very washed out, with a sepia kind of tint too it, and started to dawn that, yeah war isn't all shiney and bright, it is a bit dark and gritty.
And with seeing a lot of News of Iraq etc these days, in that area of the world, everything is very brown, i think it just adds to a bit more realisim, which i think will be what Kojima will be doing.
TBH i preffer it to the idea of the over use of HDR and blurring that is going on in a lot of games these days. The interesting one to see how the colour is will be DiRT.
I agree that whilsts the colour pallet is lacking somewhat, for want of a better expression, war is a bit grey.
I thought RFOM lacked colour too when i first played it, but then realising that was the art direction they took. I watched the first few band of brothers after playing RFOM and thought it was very washed out, with a sepia kind of tint too it, and started to dawn that, yeah war isn't all shiney and bright, it is a bit dark and gritty.
And with seeing a lot of News of Iraq etc these days, in that area of the world, everything is very brown, i think it just adds to a bit more realisim, which i think will be what Kojima will be doing.
TBH i preffer it to the idea of the over use of HDR and blurring that is going on in a lot of games these days. The interesting one to see how the colour is will be DiRT.
Some people on these forums have issues!!
This is one of the best looking (if not THE best) i have seen, this proves to me that i made the right choice in getting rid of my 360 and going for a ps3 instead, if this is the quality of gaming i have to look forward to a year after its release then it proves its the better machine!
You can look at it like this.....
MGS looks far better that gears of war, gears of war was released around a year after the 360 was so you can see from that, that they are getting to grips with *** ps3 hardware far quicker than they did with the 360
Sorry to turn this into a 360 v ps3 thing but i think that this just proives the point that a lot of people have been trying to make for a while now!
Bring on the flame!
This is one of the best looking (if not THE best) i have seen, this proves to me that i made the right choice in getting rid of my 360 and going for a ps3 instead, if this is the quality of gaming i have to look forward to a year after its release then it proves its the better machine!
You can look at it like this.....
MGS looks far better that gears of war, gears of war was released around a year after the 360 was so you can see from that, that they are getting to grips with *** ps3 hardware far quicker than they did with the 360
Sorry to turn this into a 360 v ps3 thing but i think that this just proives the point that a lot of people have been trying to make for a while now!
Bring on the flame!
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did anyone notice
That's the most retarded thing I've read on here in a while.GTCole said:
How did they take longer getting to know the 360 hardware before the PS3? Please explain this to me.
Gears Of War came out a year after the 360 launch, MGS will not be coming out until 2008, PS3 is a year old in November (Yes, US/Jap launch was released in Nov 06)
Oh and this game doesn't look THAT good I mean why is there such a distinct lack of textures in some parts?
I'm not the only one who noticed this, heck this has been passed around a few times on another forum:
Yeah, but MGS isn't designed as an fps, it is just an option they are adding.
Only a complete idiot or n00b would play an MGS if fps mode.
And as for Gears of War. Gears of War is the epitomy of Graphics over gamplay. Sure it looked ok, but it had an incoherant story and unoriginal gameplay.
Only a complete idiot or n00b would play an MGS if fps mode.
And as for Gears of War. Gears of War is the epitomy of Graphics over gamplay. Sure it looked ok, but it had an incoherant story and unoriginal gameplay.
I like the way people can see a game thats not finished and pick holes in it, a bit like the KZ2 trailer, everyone wanted top see a gameplay demo of both of these games and thats what they got. I remember when Gears of War was shown at an early stage when it had a very poor frame rate and a few graphics issues, look how they improved that game in a few months. Any way the gameplay trailer is on the Japan PSN store.