New Rig - What psu?

Hmm i might email Seasonic on that matter and see if they have fixed it also DFI. I have no problem getting the PCP & C but it is expensive (it will last 4-5 upgrades) but its 9.1 inches long and i would have to fit it at the bottom of the coolermaster T01, Which is fine i guess but had my heart set on 1 psu and mounted at the top where its meant to be. I shall have to read more into psu's i think there is loads of information from everyone who’s posted. Appreciated: P keep them coming though quite interesting finding out the aspects of different psu’s and whatnot: D
 
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Mp4 said:
but its 9.1 inches long and i would have to fit it at the bottom of the coolermaster T01, Which is fine i guess but had my heart set on 1 psu and mounted at the top where its meant to be.

Yeah, your limiting your options with 180mm units. Power wise the PCP&C510/s12-600/Liberty 620/OCZ 600/Tagan 580 are all able to supply about the same amount of 12v current, 34/36A. If its a long term upgrade a bit more 12v current would be wise, maybe this example will help.
 
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So basically, get a PC power & cooling psu no question's asked ?, i think it can fit i the bottom of the case but i wouldn’t be sure about airflow, and really £290 on a psu (yes its long-term) but too expensive at the moment as i want to get up and running asap. And i wont be fully upgrading for at least 2-3 years (i hope) ill maybe add a few raptors etc to it and maybe a new DVD rom , but thats about it. Might wait and see what reviews the Tagan's get i dont think its large as the pc power and cooling psu's either and its about £100 cheaper there 900W is about £185inc p&p. Other than that Seasonic S12 and the enermax 620 is looking great :P and there are quite decent reviews on the old Tagan U15's.
 
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TG900-U95 (TURBOJET)

Record-breaking: Over 900 Watt for Quad GFX engines and multi-core server systems

The TurboJet Series offers solutions for high-end gaming, video design, and server applications

• Compatible with Intel EPS12V Ver.2.9 and downwards

• Universal motherboard support due to 20+4 pin main power as well as 4-pin & 8-pin +12V power connectors for 20, 20+4, 24+4, and 24+8 configurations

• Four 6-pin PCI Express connectors with REMI technology reduce EMI and support multible graphic cards

• Combo-S2M (SATA to IDE) connectors empowering all types of hard drives

• Universal AC input range for all countries: 110~240VAC

• 36 months warranty

From the Tagan site , they did have a datasheet but taken it offline :/
 
Managed to find this on there FAQ's section But not 100% if this technology is enhanced with there new PSU's

7. Why the TSCT-Curve (Tagan Silence Control Technology) not showing the dependency of the Temperature – but of the Load percentage ??
Answer : Temperature is an indirect result of the energy loss in form of heat (so-called heat-dissipation – electrical to thermal loss). The total energy loss of power supply depends strongly on its efficiency and the actual loads on its DC-outputs. By controlling the air-flow / air-convection the heat energy loss should be as soon as possible conveyed out from inside the power supply, to guarantee the heat-balance and the optimum of mean temperature inside the power supply. In detail each value of the temperature depends also on what kind of components and its location. Power components, like power-diode, MOSFET, HV-transistor etc. producing the most local energy loss (so-called “hot-spots”), which - through the built-in heat-sinks of appropriate dimension and large surfaces - should be conducted and over its surface conveyed out by the air-convection. It has therefore a sense that TSCT-curve showing the dependency on the load than on the temperature , because the energy loss is proportional to the loads. Note : Tagan power supplies have a high efficiency of ca. 75% and a PF-value up to 0.99 on high-loads. The special designed heat-sinks of the Tagan power supplies enable not only the best thermal management but also a lowest possible fan noise development. Indeed Tagan does not need fan on light-loads (i.e. zero dB operation); nevertheless for the sake of security at least one fan should run and on higher loads (due to higher heat-dissipations) then both 2 fans are working.
 
I know an american site that sells them , but postage and packing is about £14+ if you pm me i shall send a link 2u, it has every psu you need :D even though ive not come up with a verdict on what psu im getting , ive had confirmation that the Tagan's are gradualy coming to UK , some where sent yesturday but another company had them on pre order etc. I shall be getting a spec sheet from them soon also. ill keep you posted :D
 
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Mp4 said:
Intresting read about the Tagan's

Quote from Dan

Any brand name PSU with a reasonable rating will run any sensible PC today, and that's not likely to change. These Tagans, however, don't just suit certain niche users down to the ground. They also give everybody else insurance against problems that they might, perhaps, later have. Buy one, set it to combined-rail mode, and relax in the knowledge that adding stuff in the future won't create weird and wonderful problems.

Highly recommended.

Hmm tempting and the U15 Tagan is modular :D

can vouch for the Tagan's very good and rock solid rails
 
They seem solid, though the new Tagan psu's have Quad pcie - i will only use 2 of them, still worth getting? though i shall never want 4 pcie cards well i hope not anyways. Anyone have good remarks to say about Tagan psu's? Just reading the ATI website about Crossfire whats been tested with it for the x1900's there are not many psu's that have been tested and there seems to be more tested for the x1800's rather than the x1900's. So i take it the psu's that have been tested for the x1800's are cirtified for the x1900's? It just seems odd that they have only tested Enermax , seasonic , etc just for the x1900's.
 
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The FX700-GLN Epsilon was one of the first psu's i looked at, all i saw was 700W and that it was Nvidia and Ati certified.

Heres some tech info about it.

The FX700-GLN is the higher end Epsilon model on the list; a 700 Watt beast of a power supply supplying an astonishing 50A on the 4 separate 15A 12V rails alone. Coupled with a super high 85% efficiency and a low noise rating from FSP, we were very interested to see if this 700W PSU would show any noticeable performance benefits.

BUT Silverstone have gone and added 10A more to there Zues series.

SilverStone is again setting the benchmark for consumer-level power supplies. The new Zeus is now up to 750W at 50°C while maintaining a size that is easy to integrate into most systems. With an incredible 60A combined (over 700W) for the +12V rail alone, the ST75ZF is capable of powering any top of the line systems available today and beyond. Coupled with higher than 80% efficiency and top quality cooling fan, the ST75ZF is also quieter and more user friendly than its predecessor while providing more power.

Quad +12V rail for superior performance
Dual PCI-E 6pin connectors (SLI & CrossFire ready)
Industrial class components
Support for ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V
Active PFC
Efficiency greater than 80% (max. 86%)
 
DONT get the tagan 580w, its not got enough power for your system, i know, ive got one, ive got to save up for a 1k psu at the moment to power my system

there is a wattage calculator knocking about at the moment, it says i need at least 700w, thats with no area off play so for me its 850w or 1k

your system would be ok with a tagan, until ya overclock anything and then it would die, im running 2 PSU at the moment to get me by, but its not ideal
 
FSP 700w looks like a good choice.

I'm running an Antec True Control 550w. X2 3800, 7800GT. The rails are much better than the 600w Enermax I had which lasted less than 24hrs.:eek:

The Antec's adjustable rails are handy, especially on motherboards that don't regulate power properly like my Gigabyte.
 
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DONT get the tagan 580w, its not got enough power for your system, i know, ive got one, ive got to save up for a 1k psu at the moment to power my system

there is a wattage calculator knocking about at the moment, it says i need at least 700w, thats with no area off play so for me its 850w or 1k

your system would be ok with a tagan, until ya overclock anything and then it would die, im running 2 PSU at the moment to get me by, but its not ideal


I wont be getting anything lower than 600w, The new Tagan's are 900w + And i shall be overclocking my graphics cards , and memory. I have the rig above and then i have to add 6+ fans to that. There are loads of choices, still no closer to buying a psu. Unless i buy all of them and solve my dilemma that way :D Silverstone / Tagan / FSP
 
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