Soldato
a 32 1080p set is my next PC monitor, so i'm glad they're here personally.
New samsung at last 1080p on a 32"
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MY GOD, I didn't realise they were £650 for a 32. ******* hell, you could get a nice 37/42 panasonic plasma for that.
Before you start going on about plasmas not for monitors yadda yadda, £650 is an insane amount to spend on a 32 samsung. Get a cheaky 24inch monitor for peanuts to use as a pc screen and a panasonic plasma for tv and console gaming, much better value, and a lot more sensible.
Even if you have little room, £650 is a stupid amount to spend on a 32 samsung, that will most likely have a number of annoying problems like other samsung screens, and PQ like a badgers ass. Im sure there must be other viable alternatives as a monitor/tv.
Hmm, I quite like idea of this for a computer monitor too. Been using a 2407WFP for a while now and have been itching for an upgrade. I don't feel like dropping over a grand on a 3008WFP, and a 40" M86/87 is just overkill on a desk with me sitting at the most a few feet away.
Granted, £650 is a lot for something which is just 32", but I am tempted nonetheless
Granted, £650 is a lot for something which is just 32", but I am tempted nonetheless
Why do you think that?
In the past you could say that a normal TV just didnt have the resolution of a PC monitor but now I cant see why getting a Full HDTV would be a dis-advantage over a standard PC Monitor?
Im pretty much sold on getting a Full HDTV as my next monitor and was going to get a 40" one, since the 37" panels werent of the same standard. Now theres a 32" it probably is the perfect upgrade from a 24" especially considering how near you sit next to it when using a PC. Theres a definite market for these sizes...
The way I see it (as a PC enthusiast) is that I can tell easy between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 so Full HDTV is a must - I might not notice it when sitting a few metres away watching a movie or normal TV but that wont be its main usage...
Exactly how I was looking at it...Hmm, I quite like idea of this for a computer monitor too. Been using a 2407WFP for a while now and have been itching for an upgrade. I don't feel like dropping over a grand on a 3008WFP, and a 40" M86/87 is just overkill on a desk with me sitting at the most a few feet away.
Granted, £650 is a lot for something which is just 32", but I am tempted nonetheless
Anyone know if there will be any other 32" Full HDTVs out there soon? Looking to buy in the next couple of months...
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Soldato
you dont agree with anything i say so im not that bothered lol
And i dont agree with this, either. The affect of resolution is a function of screen size vs viewing distance. you cant write off resolution purely because its a small screen, it doesnt work like that. we'd all be using 1024x768 24" lcd's otherwise. the further you sit, the bigger the screen has to be for any perceived difference. conversely; the closer you sit, the smaller the display has to be. I said it would make a nice cross tv/pc monitor - which means you would be sitting fairly close. that itself means the difference in resolution would be very apparent.
32" 1920x1200 would be nice. i look at the 30" 2560x1600 or whatever they are and think 'damn thats nice' but you still have to sit relatively close (i actually sit 34 inches away from my 24"). 1920x1200 @ 32" would still give you a great resolution to work with but also allow you to kick back and watch a movie without having to sit so close. i cant see whats bad about that at all.
yet people will spend a grand on a 30" dell or apple. i dont care for the price - i wont be buying one. and yes i think it's far too expensive but the idea is great. and like everything else they'll eventually fall in price
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Yes thats you, if the user hasnt the room or doesnt want a 37" set but does want 1080p res upto now his options were getting a 24" TFT, which isnt a TV, doesnt have the features of a TV nor remote control etc. Maybe you should compare the price to 30" TFT monitors (costing over £1000) just to see the value and very few people need the resolution higher than 1080p
As i expressed buying one of these over a 24" TFT may cost you about £200 more but what do you expect, your also getting all of the Tv features. People here and in the monitor section would have been wetting their pants about a 1080p res 32" Tv/Monitor a few years back. I also remember spending £550 per 19" TFT not so long ago neither.
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Perhaps youd like to explain why arent they as good, the technology is the same, if anything a TV will have possibly a wider viewing angle and higher contrast because of its stronger backlighting.
I certinaly have no problems with my 1080p projector acting like a monitor and it would match the quality of most high end plasmas. It also has better black levels than my TFT does even @ 80"-100" screen size, the only thing is 16:9 compared to a TFT with 16:10
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Two reasons. Firstly a TV is setup for video, this starts as simple PQ settings on to image processing and dedicated VP and although you can change or disable some of this you just don't get as clear an image when viewing text. Secondly the size of the pixels, this is why larger monitors have higher resolutions. Unless you sit yourself further away, which does rather make getting a bigger display pointless, you really notice this. There's a difference between using a TV with a PC and using one as your primary monitor, I definitely wouldn't do that.
See above, the basic display technology may be the same but that's not everything. If you're talking projectors then compare data projectors to similarly priced HT ones - there's quite a difference beyond the environment they'll be used in.
I have a 1080p projector as well, can't say I'd use it as a monitor..... but it is fed by my HTPC. But it is just a dumb display that I can calibrate in its entireity. Not sure why you bring in Plasmas but unless you have a really good PJ - CRT or a Rotel, Sim2 etc DLP then you're not going to beat a good Plasma. However I like the subjectivity that a BIG display brings, may not be better but it sure is nice.
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Anyway, not sure why this discussion is going on. The OP hasn't posted anything about wanting a monitor...
Soldato
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my sony is crystal clear on the desktop. ive no idea where you pull this stuff from
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I dont know where your going neither, data projectors and the enviroment they will be used in?
Many people on various forums are even using 26" 720p displays for console and PC usage , a 32" 1080p model wont look any worse than these for sure.
The average monitor has 700:1-1000:1 contrast ratio.
Why would a HDTV in 32" with 15000:1 NOT have a sharp and vivid image?
Particular with a 1920x1080 desktop offering 1:1 pixels
The reason i mentioned my projector is that if i zoom it down to a 32" screen or upto a 100" it STILL looks excellent with a 1080p resolution desktop. The only downside of such a display would say be trying to view desktop text on a 32" from over perhaps 5 foot distance.
If the display accepts 1680x1050 via VGA then this would be a rememdy for that, it certainly works well on my PJ were i too find 1080p text sometimes a little hard on the eyes from a distance.
Why would a HDTV in 32" with 15000:1 NOT have a sharp and vivid image?
Particular with a 1920x1080 desktop offering 1:1 pixels
The reason i mentioned my projector is that if i zoom it down to a 32" screen or upto a 100" it STILL looks excellent with a 1080p resolution desktop. The only downside of such a display would say be trying to view desktop text on a 32" from over perhaps 5 foot distance.
If the display accepts 1680x1050 via VGA then this would be a rememdy for that, it certainly works well on my PJ were i too find 1080p text sometimes a little hard on the eyes from a distance.
I have to admit for CAD/Photoshop work you may not get the same technical clarity but I very much doubt on such a screen that you could perceive it.
A lot of your arguments seem to be based on 'last decades technology' and the gaps you had to live with when making your decision - I doubt the same voids exist and if they do its probably anal detail (and therefore niche usage) that make it apparent...
I dont have a great knowledge regards monitors and TVs, but the market has moved to a place where the differences between a PC monitor and HDTV are very slight for the vast majority of consumer usage...
ps3ud0
A lot of your arguments seem to be based on 'last decades technology' and the gaps you had to live with when making your decision - I doubt the same voids exist and if they do its probably anal detail (and therefore niche usage) that make it apparent...
I dont have a great knowledge regards monitors and TVs, but the market has moved to a place where the differences between a PC monitor and HDTV are very slight for the vast majority of consumer usage...
ps3ud0
Soldato
having used y el cheapo 37" Hannspree 720p TV as a monitor for a week or so when mine packed up, i have to say a 37 720 would just not cut it for intensive PC useage.
HOWEVER, a 32" 1080p would be perfect (assuming casual use, and not some hi-end photographer/CAD designer or some other esoteric person.
For mr Joe Bloggs, a 32 1080p screen would be fine! Would advise sitting a good few inches back, but only the width of a decent desk or so.
HOWEVER, a 32" 1080p would be perfect (assuming casual use, and not some hi-end photographer/CAD designer or some other esoteric person.
For mr Joe Bloggs, a 32 1080p screen would be fine! Would advise sitting a good few inches back, but only the width of a decent desk or so.
Soldato
Guees what, I've just picked up a "panasonic TX-32LZD80" tv, full 1080p capable and it looks stunning viewed from about 7 feet away. I got it by doing a deal with someone with someone in the trade and didn't cost me anything. I had the panny TX-32LXD70 before this one and that has a very image quality, but this is noticeably better. the old one had a contrast ratio of 8,500:1 whereas the new one has 10,000:1 contrast ratio and the blacks are definately better (though not as good as a "Kuros" plasma). I neither want nor need a tv thats any bigger 'cos it would dwarf the living room. the question is though do I think its worth the premium cost over summat cheaper, for me, no, but it didn't cost me anything, but someone else might be tempted.
Incidentally, me son's xbox 360 looks gorgeous through it and I'm gonna borrow me neighbour's PS3 and try a coupla BD discs and see how they look. I want in the near future to hook up me pc through and see what games look like.
Incidentally, me son's xbox 360 looks gorgeous through it and I'm gonna borrow me neighbour's PS3 and try a coupla BD discs and see how they look.
I want in the near future to hook up me pc through and see what games look like.Actually that Panasonic is a lovelly telly man.
Its 1.3a spec too with Deep Colour x.v.YCC inc 1080p/24fps compatibility and finally 1:1 overscan control. If i were youd id very quickly purchase a PS3 but your bound to be blown away with some quality BDs on that little beauty.
Enjoy it...
Id certainly check this telly out over the Samsung if anyones considering buying.
Its 1.3a spec too with Deep Colour x.v.YCC inc 1080p/24fps compatibility and finally 1:1 overscan control. If i were youd id very quickly purchase a PS3 but your bound to be blown away with some quality BDs on that little beauty.
Enjoy it...
Id certainly check this telly out over the Samsung if anyones considering buying.
Just thought I'd chime in with this little chart that I found on a reputable home cinema forum a while back.
Might be of some use to anyone considering blowing a good deal of cash on a new 1080p telly, especially on a panel thats only 32".
Basically the conclusion I arrived at after weeks of researching was that if you're going to be using the tv as a tv then 720p is more than good enough considering the lack of HD channels at the moment. SD channels generally look as good if not better on the lower resolution screens.
However if you're mainly going to be using the telly as a monitor and watching blu ray films then obviously 1080p is the way to go along with a meaty graphics card to run your games
Might be of some use to anyone considering blowing a good deal of cash on a new 1080p telly, especially on a panel thats only 32".
Basically the conclusion I arrived at after weeks of researching was that if you're going to be using the tv as a tv then 720p is more than good enough considering the lack of HD channels at the moment. SD channels generally look as good if not better on the lower resolution screens.
However if you're mainly going to be using the telly as a monitor and watching blu ray films then obviously 1080p is the way to go along with a meaty graphics card to run your games
Well thanks for all the Input guys. Still not decided yet
This is going to be used for tv and my PS3.
Should I go for the 37" display then and forget the 32"?
Do you recommend plasma over LCD?
This is going to be used for tv and my PS3.
Should I go for the 37" display then and forget the 32"?
Do you recommend plasma over LCD?
Consigliere
@ that chart...who has a TV with a 120" screen size?