New toy (and pics of my 'portable' setup...)

TRY IT. If you flash it Rockbox it still keeps iriver firmware. It has so many features over stock.

I have nothing to gain by even trying it. Seriously.

Since you haven't even tried it, you're talking out of your ass.

I bow to your superior knowledge of how I use my own DAP. I bow to your knowledge of my folder structures, playlists and awareness of it's functionality. I really do.

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Here's example of Rockbox.

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Compared to iriver browser, which is cluttered. The 6 line iriver display is annoying, when browsing. Also since iriver relies on syncing, it means reliant on OS and software support. With self-build database this no longer applies.

I have nothing to gain by even trying it. Seriously.

And you know that how, exactly?
oh also adds gapless.
 
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whether its the case for the h140 or not i dont know, but rockbox did a good job at improving the sound quality on other iriver players. the parametric eq in particular is fantastic. if it does the same on the h140 that IMO its worth it for that alone.

screw the themes and fonts, ive never been one for fancy stuff anyway. when i used rockbox i was quite happy with white on a black background. badbob, a lot of the stuff you are trying to promote, penski doesnt want. its bloody obvious, just accept that.
 
I look like a complete goon wearing the industrial-looking Beyers, I've checked. They're too bulky, block out too much noise and can't be hung around my neck when I'm not using them without acting like a neck brace, so I've never tried to venture outside with them.

I have quite a large head and neck so they're fine for me. Around my neck, the pads sit just under my ears - can still move my noggin around. :)

Thanks for the link. I'll get some ordered in a few weeks. I have 'plans' ;)

I think I'll replace the cable when I do it too...dunno whether to go for another stock one or not; because I use them out and about most of the time, the 'short' cable (biggest 'criticism' I've read of them) is never an issue...

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Here's example of Rockbox.

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Compared to iriver browser, which is cluttered.
It'll give me a colour display? Well that's one gimmick that has me sold. Don't tell me - it does stupid, pointless 'artwork' browsing too?
The 6 line iriver display is annoying, when browsing.
No it isn't - works perfectly for me. I know what I have on my player and I know exactly where it is.
Also since iriver relies on syncing, it means reliant on OS and software support. With self-build database this no longer applies.
Does it? Strange...I've not updated the software in years and it still works fine. I still have the installers; if the install fails on my PC, I can reinstall.

Hell, even when I've not bothered to synch, it still works absolutely fine.

And you know that how, exactly?

Because I don't need a single one of the 'features' you have described. They are all either irrelevant to my file format and the way I use my player or they're tawdry gimmicks which I have no time and tolerance for. I half expect you to tell me it installs ****ing tetris on it ffs.

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It'll give me a colour display?

Sigh. Not noticed it fits more text lines in the page? Whilst browsing my collection, the iriver text (artists or albums) are so big that most letters are off screen, so you have to wait for it to scroll. Only 6 viewable vertically is annoying.

I half expect you to tell me it installs ****ing tetris on it ffs.

One better. You can play doom. And read text files.

Because I don't need a single one of the 'features' you have described.

There are others I haven't explained, which you might find useful. Until you read up what it's got then I think you're just ignorent of the unknown.


Does it? Strange...I've not updated the software in years and it still works fine.

And if you move to a new OS?
 
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Sigh. Not noticed it fits more text lines in the page? Whilst browsing my collection, the iriver text (artists or albums) are so big that most letters are off screen, so you have to wait for it to scroll. Only 6 viewable vertically is annoying.
For you, perhaps. I have already explained that I know exactly what I have on my player and where it is. I know that if I want to go from Aphex Twin to XTC, I hold the stick up for a set amount of time, glance at the screen and do a couple of quick taps to get it spot on and I'm there. I split my folders Artist > Album and I never have to wait for it to scroll horizontally.

One better. You can play doom. And read text files.
Why on earth would you want to do that with a DAP?

There are others I haven't explained, which you might find useful. Until you read up what it's got then I think you're just ignorent of the unknown.

Despite readng and re-reading http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox for the last hour or so, I can't find a single thing that makes me want it. There is literally zero reason for me to install it.

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And if you move to a new OS?

I won't.

I have thousands of pounds of hardware and software invested in this machine so I can make music the way I want, legally, and so that when it comes to selling said music, I pass any system audit.

Why would I want to spend all that money again? Nevermind that though...If I do, I can do so safe in the knowledge that I won't have to reinstall my DAP software...And that I can play ****ing Doom. :rolleyes:

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Rockbox sounds better.

That's like me saying that my farts sound better than your farts.

You're clutching at straws, boyo. 'Better' is far too vague a term.

I take care when creating my files so that they sound as good as they can. I don't need any software EQ frippary because the files, player, headphones (and now amp) don't need it.

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At least I've tried it, and been using it, offering bug reports, suggestions and helping the Rockbox forum since initial H120/H140 bootloader. Until you try it, you really are sounding foolish. As said if you don't like it, you can go back. Just delete the .rockbox directory and it boots up as normal.

A mate with a h140 thought the same as you, but after using rockbox for a couple of weeks he now always uses it. oh rockbox supports different battery capacities, so if you replace it with a higher capacity model, the reported battery level is correct.
 
At least I've tried it, and been using it, offering bug reports, suggestions and helping the Rockbox forum since initial H120/H140 bootloader.
Well bully for you. Y'know there's nothing worse than tedius little e-fanboys who won't accept that someone has no interest in their software of choice.

Until you try it, you really are sounding foolish. As said if you don't like it, you can go back. Just delete the .rockbox directory and it boots up as normal.

A mate with a h140 thought the same as you, but after using rockbox for a couple of weeks he now always uses it. oh rockbox supports different battery capacities, so if you replace it with a higher capacity model, the reported battery level is correct.

Do you have difficulty understanding other people?

IT OFFERS NOTHING TO ME.

After four years of daily use, I know my player inside out. Why on EARTH would I want to go to the effort of installing it and relearning how to use my player when I am not going to get anything positive out of it?!

You're trolling now.

Kindly **** off.

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Y'know there's nothing worse than tedius little e-fanboys who won't accept that someone has no interest in their software of choice.

And there's nothing worse when people are unwilling to try something else, because they're too stubborn. If you class other people with higher intelligence/wisedom/experience as "e-fanboys" ...well.

He likes how it works for him. Get over it.

Still hasen't tried the alternative, and might actually prefer it. Hardly rocket science nor requiring hundreds of hours learning machine code..
 
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And there's nothing worse when people are unwilling to try something else, because they're too stubborn.
I would try it if it offered anything that was of any use to me. It doesn't. So I won't.

It's like tying to convince me to have breast implants. I don't want breasts. I have no need for breasts. I won't get breast implants.

If you class other people with higher intelligence/wisedom/experience as "e-fanboys" ...well.

Let's have a look at the evidence...

Your profile states:

Date of Birth:
6th Jan 1922
Age:
86
Occupation:
Terrorist

Translation: "I R fifteen! Look at theh funny joke I made! Terrst!! LULZ!!!"

Your spelling and grammar is atrocious. You can't even spell 'wisdom' correctly, resulting in a veritable mountain of ironing.

You remind me of the kid at school who used to keep trying to convince people to use Linux.

In fact...I bet you probably do.

Run along, little boy. It is well past your bedtime.

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Please. Don't try and insult me because you don't have the skill to try something out. Because of the nature of it, you need to "suck it and see" rather just looking at it from your perspective that the iriver works "so why should I change" viewpoint. Rather that you should try it. Don't have a go at me and rockbox as "rubbish and gimmicky" for your unwillingness to try it out.

No I'm not that Linux nerd. And I'm older than you by 10 years.
 
Please. Don't try and insult me because you don't have the skill to try something out.
It is not a question of 'skill' - it is a question of need. I don't need to try Rockbox because I don't need anything it offers.

Because of the nature of it, you need to "suck it and see" rather just looking at it from your perspective that the iriver works "so why should I change" viewpoint. Rather that you should try it. Don't have a go at me and rockbox as "rubbish and gimmicky" for your unwillingness to try it out.
You don't seem to understand a very simple concept which I (and others) have been putting to you for nearly two hours now:

I DON'T NEED ANYTHING THAT IT OFFERS


No I'm not that Linux nerd. And I'm older than you by 10 years.

Proof were it needed that intelligence, wisedom (sic) and experience are never the preserve of the elderly.

Keep trying, boyo. Maybe one day you'll move out of your mum's house...

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