New WoW Expansion

I'd start again if they did a daoc style classic server, no expansions, just level 60. And no instanced based pvp, bring back hillsbrad zergs!
 
agree with a lot of these comments. I played up until about halfway through naxx, then onto TBC, then gave up a few months ago.

I remember sitting at my pc for hours upon hours as we wiped on Patchwerk, frittering away all the pots and flasks that I had spent copious amounts of time and gold accumulating. It just got so frustrating, just constant wipe wipe wipe all the time. And when we eventually beat a new boss, woo hoo one or two new items to share amongst 40 people.

That was even ok, but raiding in TBC just killed it off for me. Firstly the shift from 40 man to 10 and 25 man dungeons pretty much destroyed a lot of guilds. A lot of people ended up getting left out, and guilds that were big enough to have 2 raid groups ended up having arguments about which team was better and who deserved to be on it. It was a complete mess. Doing Kara was ok at first but then the old feelings of frustration came back - wipe after wipe after wipe for hours on end (bloody romeo and juliet), I just sat there thinking 'why am I wasting my time on this? I'm even enjoying it in any way...'
I stopped playing when my guild was working on Gruul, so not even seen any raid instances after that...BWL, that was a good example of a fun, well paced and balanced instance. Naxx was just too damn hard, it wasn't enjoyable.
 
Started in beta and played constantly for years, quit and sold my shaman, had a rest then started up again months later.

Was content until TBC was released. They REALLY upped the timesink and completely ruined the game with mindless rep grinding. Couldn't stand the kiddy community/playerbase (take a look at the official forums now) and the general expansion idea was dreadful aswell.

I didn't have any trouble cancelling my subscription and dropping the game like a bag of potatoes. My friends and former clans soon followed suit and I'm betting the game is hemorrhaging subscribers on a daily basis which caused Blizzard to panic and quickly announce the new expansion.
 
Thing with TBC is, if you look at the patch's they've released since TBC, each one has MAJOR changes to loot, bosses, and TBC its self etc. etc.. It makes you feel like TBC was around 60% finished and its now 80%.

Start playing it again like i have, its changed a little, for the better i might add.


The expansion will bring it back i feel. The idea of space paladins kinda ****** me off but i gave it a chance.

The thing i love about blizzard is they do learn and they do adapt. Compare WoW vanilla to TBC and the cool things they added, then look at WoW + TBC and think of the things they've learned and are going to add. Siege weapons and destroyable building!!!
 
I just quit WoW last week. The rep grinds are not to bad, 2/3 wks for exalted. but the grind is boring.

Compare a 2/3wk grind to the time it took to grind rep in Silithus and you will find the rep grind in TBC is a lot faster. I do admit rep was gained while raiding AQ20/40 too but not all people could raid, and where TBC differs is that the rep grind can be solo'd or done in 5-man grp instances (non-heroic even easier for rep, less points though).

At the end of it, you get some epics a lot faster than pre TBC.

But saying that, TBC did ruin WoW imho for all sorts of reasons, the amount of players needed per raid being 1 factor.

EDIT: Should have added one of the main reasons I quit WoW is because I play on the US servers, time difference made it really hard to play end game. I have no clue if its possible to transfer to an EU server now. I know it use to be possible as there was information about that on there website, but now I can't find it.
 
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People are saying all this stuff about potions, yet these days you can only have one type of each on you from a massive total of two types... Guardian and Battle pots.

So, its not *as* bad as it used to be in that sense. :)
 
You do have a lot more to actually do to keep yourself occupied whilst playing now but in all honesty i found it so boring once i got 70 it was like "oh im raiding again. oh.... how fun"
 
Pffft... I remember The days of warcraft 1-3 Those were the days Bring on 4 Is what I say! You fools Just ruining your life wasting away in front of your PC and Your ALSO PAYING FOR IT!?!?!?!

Theres Just no Helping some people! :p
 
I enjoyed WoW up to and including MC, BWL and ZG. I quit after we cleared AQ20 as it started to suck. I am glad I didn't bother with Naxx.

I got TBC and the grind from 60-70 was very fun, so much better than the grind to 60. However I spent a few days at 70 before quitting again, I am happy I didn't start raiding again from reading the replies here.

If the levelling from 70-80 is as good as TBC, and they make the lvl80 end game enjoyable even when you aren't progressing in raids (perhaps improve the crafting so it has much more depth, or give you missions and a rank FFXI style), or to have another Alterac Valley style BG I will probably give it a try :)
 
The rep grind isn't that bad, it just kind of happens by itself as you do level 70 instances. You can do Kara without being armed to the teeth with heroic loot as well.

I'm enjoying the game more than ever at the moment but can wait for the expansion. My guild has just started SSC and TK so I'd like to clear them first.
 
The problem with the game for me is that it is not designed for anyone with a family, I have a wife and daughter so I can't sit down at 6pm everynight to raid.

I have never been to MC, BWL or AQ and I have only been to Karazhan once.

Now I pay the same money as everyone else but haven't expierienced x amount of the game. I have a couple of friends that are in the same boat too.
 
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The problem with the game for me is that it is not designed for anyone with a family, I have a wife and daughter so I can't sit down at 6pm everynight to raid.

I have never been to MC, BWL or AQ and I have only been to Karazhan once.

Now I pay the same money as everyone else but haven't expierienced x amount of the game. I have a couple of friends that are in the same boat too.
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Im in same position as you. Used to raid twice a week for 4 hours but now the little fella is 6 months old hes a lot more active so Im spending my time with him. My ex-guild then decided to go hardcore with 3 raids minimum a week so that was the end of that for me. Just waiting for subscription to run out now, still do a few BG's but not a lot, Im not going to miss it when subscription does run out, thats for sure.
 
Gave up WoW about a month back now. I had been raiding 2-3 times per week in a decent PvE guild (up to end boss in TK) and was really enjoying myself tbh. I had a T2 60 char that I had levelled pre TBC and an almost full epic equipped level 70 post TBC. The thing is that you KNOW that each expansion means;

1. A huge amount of time to level up/skill up/get faction points
2. All your existing epic gear (and to a certain extent your gold) will be worth much much less as soon as expansion is live
3. You're probably only 18 months from another expansion where you'll have to do it all again

The amount of time that I spent playing this game was (to me) significant enough just with raiding, but knowing that you're going to have to really put some hours in just to keep raiding the new content (and lets face it the best stuff is in the end-game 25 man instances - the 5 man stuff is OK but quickly becomes very formulaic) means that I really can't be bothered with it any more.

Oh and hi Slin ;)
 
TBC killed WoW for me. I loved the 40-man raids, it was the only thing keeping me going in the game. There is nothing as fun for me as taking on a dungeon with 39 other people, all chatting on TS and having a good time.

I can understand why they reduced dungeons in TBC to 25-man, but that's 15 people too little to me.
 
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