Newcastle United

vanpeebles said:
whats that got to do with being a manager? he was a very crap rubbish manager for newcastle end of story.


It has nothing to do with it - the comment was "what does Ruud Gullit know" - answer, a lot more than you.


Shearer - past it - FACT
 
of course hes past it, he was going to retire but stayed on because they had no one else? i cant really see what your problem is.

have you even seen many newcastle games this season, a common tactic was to have shearer a 35 year old up front on his own against four defenders with no back up. no forward could handle that
 
I was simply saying it seems that Newcastle rely too heavily on him, and that he could be a contributary factor for their under achievement.

Name a big club in Europe with a 35 year old striker leading their line.

Souness, Dalglish, Keegan, Gullit, Robson - all had money to spend, and spent it poorly and hence paid the price - Shearer hasn't...
 
vanpeebles said:
o neil is being unfairly mentioned by everyone and everybody, the poor bloke has his wife to take care of

I wouldn't say being linked with a job and calling him 'poor bloke' is correct, he would rather be linked with a job than none at all. Aslong as his name is banded about he will remain 'hot'.
 
i just love the way that people still talk about newcastle as if they're this big club. what baffles me more is that big sam would even consider going there seeing as his bolton team is better.

B@Th*nG
 
sandy10 said:
It has nothing to do with it - the comment was "what does Ruud Gullit know" - answer, a lot more than you.


Shearer - past it - FACT


As the discussion was manager based i thought it needed no explanation.
I think as a manager he is crap and knows nothing about the job. Playing well and being a good manager are a world apart.
Where as i feel Shearer is a grounded individual with a broad knowledge base on football and the kind of attitude that demands respect form other players.
Gullit may know how to win but he does not know how to make others win.
I think Shearer is an inspiration to every English footballer and would/will make a great manager.
This is not saying that i feel he is capable of taking on Newcastle at the moment but with the right team around him i think he would do more than well. Certainly better then Gullit.
 
sandy10 said:
With respect, Ruud Gullit is one of the best European players of the past 20 years, an integral part of the AC Milan that swept both domestic and continental honours.

Totally irrelevant.
Daglish , Souness , Keegan and Hoddle were all top class players that have all failed at management level.

sandy10 said:
So was Mother Theresa, but she never played top flight football.
Totally irrelevant.

sandy10 said:
Souness, Dalglish, Keegan, Gullit, Robson - all had money to spend, and spent it poorly and hence paid the price - Shearer hasn't...
Totally irrelevant.

sandy10 said:
Nor mine.
Poor retort after being beaten all ends up by vanpeebles.

sandy10 said:
Could Sven take over after our 2nd round world cup exit?
Of course he can , the FA has already stated he can leave after the world cup.


When Robson got sacked, Allardyce came up for an interview, to be met by a room containing Shepherd, Hall, Cushing & Shearer.

Allardyce asked why a player was there, Shepherd replied they felt it very important to have Shearer involved in all discussions about the new boss. Allardyce apparently stood up and walked out, saying he'd come back for an interview if the club kept the players in their proper roles and not in an executive one.

The same happened with Don Hutchison.

Personally , I think he is well past it but , as has been the case for a few seasons now , we have no-one else.
As it is he remains the greatest player to ever play for Newcastle United and he is the last of a dieing breed of centre forwards.

I dont think there will ever be another player like him.
 
sandy10 said:
Nitro_Junkie said:
And to top it all hes a proper role model, a genuine, honest and down to earth guy not like most of the current crop of "super stars" who have the biggest egos around
QUOTE]

So was Mother Theresa, but she never played top flight football.


sorry but I fail to see your point, or any relavence to this thread at all
 
newcastle is practically shearers club and i for one think he deserves all the praise and love from the fans me being one of them, hes stuck by us through all of our crap, through all the managers, and when any1 else probably would have walked away at our lack of trophys and lack of success he has stuck by us.

if any1 says a bad word against shearer in newcastle they'd have an army to deal with, not the toon army but literally an army of ppl.

on a side note though shearers bar in town sucks the big one lmao. (only newcastle ppl will get that if they've been)
 
Vandle said:
Totally irrelevant.
Daglish , Souness , Keegan and Hoddle were all top class players that have all failed at management level.


Totally irrelevant.

In fact, your retort is irrelevant, and somewhat childish, - I was talking about Ruud Gullit's opinions on another footballer - has absolutely nothing to do with his Management experience, or ability.

If you think that you, or indeed anyone else posting on here, myself included, know more about footballers than Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle or Souness, you are more foolish than you already sound.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandy10
Could Sven take over after our 2nd round world cup exit?


"Of course he can , the FA has already stated he can leave after the world cup"



Yes, it was a was a question of could it happen - ie is that a likely situation or scenario, not would the FA allow him.
 
If you think that you, or indeed anyone else posting on here, myself included, know more about footballers than Dalglish, Keegan, Hoddle or Souness, you are more foolish than you already sound.

dont be fooled into thinking that because they are footballers they are uber experts on it, fans opinions are just as valid
 
vanpeebles said:
dont be fooled into thinking that because they are footballers they are uber experts on it, fans opinions are just as valid


Likewise, don't be fooled into thinking that because a Manager is sacked, his years of knowledge and experience become irrelevent.

Remember, Man Utd were on the verge of sacking Alex Ferguson back in 1986.

Of course your opinion is valid, as is mine. I opened the post, as a question to "football fans", asking if Alan Shearer had a detremental effect on the club - seemingly, the majority think not.

It doesn't make the suggestion proposterous.

That's what opinions / discussion forums are for - expressing your views.
 
Vandle said:
When Robson got sacked, Allardyce came up for an interview, to be met by a room containing Shepherd, Hall, Cushing & Shearer.

Allardyce asked why a player was there, Shepherd replied they felt it very important to have Shearer involved in all discussions about the new boss. Allardyce apparently stood up and walked out, saying he'd come back for an interview if the club kept the players in their proper roles and not in an executive one.

Is this true? I'd never heard this?
 
end of the day shearers club captain and bleeds black and white of course he should have an input into who the next manager would be
 
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