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next gen consoles

Next gen consoles need to be a compact pc, with an operating system thats designed similar to windows 8 where you can still use desktop applications as well as just chuck a disc in and start playing a game, or better yet just buy games online so it downloads them. i think thats the idea of the steam machine

The idea of the steam machine was to be able to threaten Windows/MS. Given that none of the "launched" steam machines ever got to market, i am assuming its dead as a concept.
 
It has no chance of 4k and good graphics.

Maybe it will do 1080p 60fps more consistently.

But a GTX 1080 cannot do 4k 60fps.

Any good graphics will be 1080p, maybe some games at 4k 30.
 
Thew new consoles coming out next year will be capable of running 4k with resonable framerates and graphics. Will that compare to the PC side of gaming next year? Not a chance, the graphics will still be far more advance and resolution, AA, downsampling and all that good stuff will remain higher on PC as per usual.

The console as always make for a great value proposition for gamers who just want to play games and can easily look past some of the technical shortfalls.

But for everyone posting in a GPU thread on OCUK I doubt many of you have that mind set so PC will still as ever be a few years ahead of the curve and the more money you put into your PC hardware the larger that curve gets.
 
The only reason for the PS4.5 is so it could do VR at a descent level from all the reports VR on the base PS4 was shocking bad which is why they did an upgrade for the PS4 but we shall see how it turns out.
 
PS4Neo wont have polaris graphics instead of the old one, they cannot have 2 consoles on 2 different architectures pitcairn and another on polaris, because they need to increase performance without having to remake the game for a completely new architecture.

Errr...they are still backwards compatible...the PS4.5 will have a 480 derivative GPU.
 
I'd like to know how they are going to achieve this,
the min spec for VR / 4K 30hz is basically a GTX 970 which costs 250 pounds, the same value as the entire console are currently worth

Is there something I am missing, is the price of mid range graphics cards going to half within the next 3 monthes or will they just make the new console cost twice as much ?

If anything graphics cards as a whole are getting more expensive, just look at the GTX 1080
why do console makers think they can now get more power for a lower price ?
 
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What they will be is 4k native res with down-sampled graphics (like they are now with 1080, which is why games on console often look a bit blurry). Your not getting actual 4k gaming for that price lol
 
I'd like to know how they are going to achieve this,
the min spec for VR / 4K 30hz is basically a GTX 970 which costs 250 pounds, the same value as the entire console are currently worth

Is there something I am missing, is the price of mid range graphics cards going to half within the next 3 monthes or will they just make the new console cost twice as much ?

If anything graphics cards as a whole are getting more expensive, just look at the GTX 1080
why do console makers think they can now get more power for a lower price ?
Well a low clocked Polaris 10 would theoretically get about GTX970 performance.

I dont know why you're using GTX970 as the basis for your cost comparison anyways given that it is 2 years old and will be beaten by newer, cheaper cards within the next month or two.

What they will be is 4k native res with down-sampled graphics (like they are now with 1080, which is why games on console often look a bit blurry). Your not getting actual 4k gaming for that price lol
4k native IS actual 4k gaming, though. Not sure what you're saying here. People with a 1080p display would only get the downsampled image, but somebody with a 4k display would get the full 4k pixel output if it's doing 4k natively.

I would think that it'll be more common to see games being *upscaled* rather than downsampled, though.
 
Agree with others that 4k is out of the question even at 30 FPS when it comes to AAA titles.

We're talking about a console that struggles even with 30 FPS at 1080p. The purported hardware upgrades are a slightly faster CPU and GPU that's twice as powerful as the current one. 60 FPS in every title should be the goal.
 
It is AMD doing the GPU's, so if they can build, package and sell a 480 for $199, by the time you take out retailers, distributors, partners, PCB, GDDR etc etc, they could probably sell them to Sony for under $50
 
Those of us who have been around a little longer just roll our eyes every time we hear "next-gen consoles will have PC-level graphics" or "new phone will have console-level graphics".

It's marketing bs. The laws of physics mean you can always fit more horsepower in a 10L space and 300W envelope than a 150W set top box.
 
The PS4 and Xbone are different than the upcoming more powerful iterations of them over the next 8 months. You do are not following the news or you live in a cave?

I think what he is attempting to say is that the current ps4 and xbone struggle to maintain 1080p and 30fps in a lot of titles. Now to be able to game at 4k you have to assume that the consoles need over a 400% gain in power. 800% if they are going to target 4k/60.

Simply not going to happen.
 
No CHANCE the next gen consoles will be 4k. Bear in mind these things are played on TVs. Now, worldwide how many people have a 4k TV? 0.0001%? They will be 1080p 30fps. Because that's what people play them on.
 
We are probably a good 10yrs from 4K Consoles, given the evolution of them, if the next batch hit 1080p 60fps constant, then the batch after will probably target 1440p 60fps, and then after that were probably looking at 4k 60fps, by then we will all be on 8K monitors at 200hz lol ;)

No they wont, simply because nobody (to my knowledge) has 2560x1440 televisions.
 
Agree with others that 4k is out of the question even at 30 FPS when it comes to AAA titles.

We're talking about a console that struggles even with 30 FPS at 1080p. The purported hardware upgrades are a slightly faster CPU and GPU that's twice as powerful as the current one. 60 FPS in every title should be the goal.

Are the people complaining about 4k being out of the question even reading the thread?
It's been said over and over again that there are new console versions coming soon, and nobody's expecting AAA games (apart from idiots) to run at 4k on them. Small indie games, however, WILL run perfectly fine at 4k on them. Sony and MS are probably hoping that people will be fooled into thinking that every game will run at 4k by PR nonsense.

AAA games will, however, run at 60fps on these updated consoles.
So PLEASE don't talk about current consoles being incapable of 60 FPS 1080p right now, because soon they won't be incapable of it.

The part about this thread that should interest PC users is that the updated consoles will have lower-clocked 480 chips inside them.
Soon, cards that were considered mid-range (970, 390) will be nigh console-level graphics cards.
 
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