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This is hilarious... what on earth makes people think the PS4.5 will be running ANYTHING at 4K? The 1080 is the first and only GPU that can do 1440p comfortably maxed out. Even if you put that card in a console, it wouldn't run 4K. Does anyone think the PS4.5 is going to be using a 1080? No. It will be using AMD tech for a start. Do AMD have a single card to rival the 1080? No. They don't really have anything to rival the 1070 ROFL!
Of course, the GPU tech they use will be optimised to within an inch of its life, just as the PS4 has been (which is remarkably capable for what it has under the hood), but people are SERIOUSLY deluded if they think they next iteration of the PS4 is going to catapult them above PC gamers with £3000 rigs who struggle at 4K. It's genuinely laughable.
And to the above who suggests some games will run 4K but others won't? UH? How is that supposed to work, and how do devs develop for it? This is sounding more like a PC than a console lol!
Of course, the GPU tech they use will be optimised to within an inch of its life, just as the PS4 has been (which is remarkably capable for what it has under the hood), but people are SERIOUSLY deluded if they think they next iteration of the PS4 is going to catapult them above PC gamers with £3000 rigs who struggle at 4K. It's genuinely laughable.
And to the above who suggests some games will run 4K but others won't? UH? How is that supposed to work, and how do devs develop for it? This is sounding more like a PC than a console lol!
This is hilarious... what on earth makes people think the PS4.5 will be running ANYTHING at 4K? The 1080 is the first and only GPU that can do 1440p comfortably maxed out. Even if you put that card in a console, it wouldn't run 4K. Does anyone think the PS4.5 is going to be using a 1080? No. It will be using AMD tech for a start. Do AMD have a single card to rival the 1080? No. They don't really have anything to rival the 1070 ROFL!
Of course, the GPU tech they use will be optimised to within an inch of its life, just as the PS4 has been (which is remarkably capable for what it has under the hood), but people are SERIOUSLY deluded if they think they next iteration of the PS4 is going to catapult them above PC gamers with £3000 rigs who struggle at 4K. It's genuinely laughable.
And to the above who suggests some games will run 4K but others won't? UH? How is that supposed to work, and how do devs develop for it? This is sounding more like a PC than a console lol!
Yeah it'll just do 1080p60 comfortably, and be able to run Gen1 VR.
Also they might do 1440p VSR on games that can do it.
Yeah, and NO TV runs 1440p, so 1080 is a given, because the 4K market just isn't big enough for them to try and sell millions of consoles. As you say, this will be a maxed out 1080p@60FPS console, with improvements based mostly around getting the PS VR headset to run smoothly. I'm still laughing at the 4K fantasy, just hilarious.
The way I feel today and reading a couple of these threads, I might as well buy a console. Less trouble and works
I know what you mean, I almost bought a ps4 with uncharted today , I was so tempted to think sod a new graphics card
i think i will get the PS4 Neo, for naughty dog's games ,the last of us remaster and uncharted, maybe psvr if they have good exclusives.
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The next gen consoles are so obviously going to be aimed at cashing in on VR, so 1080p @ 60fps+.
4k consoles lol.
4k consoles lol.
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yeah because PC gamers are so amazed by 1080p 60fps that they've probably already had for the past 5 years, dem consoles, pushing the envelope...
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My 280X ran GTA at around 25FPS at 4k, it was somewhat playable. Crap settings of course but its entirely feasible these consoles could run at 4k, albeit they are not going to churn out "ultra" level graphics at 60FPS.
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What I am thinking is the possibility of games for these consoles being built with a few scaling options, which will be consistent due to the consistency of the hardware base.
Profile 1) Standard PS4 res and settings - tends to be 1080 or lower at 30fps.
Profile 2) Neo standard, which would be high settings (relative to pc) at 1080/60. With some additional post-processing to enhance image quality.
Profile 3) Neo 4K, which would drop all the bells and whistles and post-processing effect and render game at barebones 4k/30. Would lose some of the higher quality effects, but would still allow a reasonable 4K experience.
Or believe everything you read on the internet ??
http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/10/s...pgrade-to-ps4-is-coming-but-it-wont-be-at-e3/
http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/10/11902000/ps4-neo-confirmed-sony-4k
Because you wanted a confirmation from the SONY itself....
not really upgradable or modular, but scallable, from now on you will have consoles for casual and hardcore gaming, with the same chip, if you apply AMD's Navi architecture to it, it all falls into place.
retro compatible, cost effective, longer life span, and easier for Devs to work on.
Variable hardware is not cost effective. And the last thing it does is make it easier for devs to work on.
There's also some really big questions about a continued upgrade cycle rather than a 'base and hot' model. Continued upgrade cycle means that you're stuck with requiring backwards compatibility which means you're in a perpetual cross-gen development philosophy(which is never ideal) PLUS it means that you're forever held back by outdated tech. And not just in horsepower terms, but architectural and hardware features, which are a HUGE part of the graphical advances we see.
I think it makes more sense to do a base model and then a hot model. But then RESTART after that. Basically, have a PS4 and then a PS4 Neo. But then do a PS5 and start fresh. Do not do a Neo 2.
We, as PC gamers, would also benefit from a restart cycle rather than a constant evolution. As we always have. So keep that in mind before you root for regularly upgraded consoles.
Used to be 5 years between gens, that was just right, then the 360/PS3 came along.
I'd be interested to see how this pans out, will they sell enough to make it worthwhile, will everyone sell up and switch, will it affect the length of the gen. They may try and hold out for a PS5/xbox4 until 7nm/new materials/EUV/new interconnect/etc which is all circa 2020, by which time VR would hopefully be affordable to the masses, if it succeeds.
I'd be interested to see how this pans out, will they sell enough to make it worthwhile, will everyone sell up and switch, will it affect the length of the gen. They may try and hold out for a PS5/xbox4 until 7nm/new materials/EUV/new interconnect/etc which is all circa 2020, by which time VR would hopefully be affordable to the masses, if it succeeds.
A 290x can play games at 4k at around 30fps fine.
If the new consoles had a 480 in them for example I can't see why they won't be able too.
then again 60fps 1080p would be just as fine
Yeah, and NO TV runs 1440p, so 1080 is a given, because the 4K market just isn't big enough for them to try and sell millions of consoles. As you say, this will be a maxed out 1080p@60FPS console, with improvements based mostly around getting the PS VR headset to run smoothly. I'm still laughing at the 4K fantasy, just hilarious.
I think you will find yourself mistake.
Go and visit any highstreet tv shop. 80% of their models are 4k.