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next gen consoles

I believe the new consoles will be able to finally play 1080p at 60fps. As for 4K content the frames will be low and the graphics settings lowered. You may get the odd game with simplistic graphics that runs at 60 fps but it certainly won't be the norm.

Let's be honest, even if the new consoles had a 1080 in them they couldn't play the majority of games at 4K/60 fps.
 
It'll do it, it won't do 60 fps max settings or anything.

Performance enhancing Async integration is real, it's only going to get used more as it's a single vendor dominated market right now with nothing to get in the way of it's uptake.
 
So... clearly next gen consoles are going to have affordable top end graphics to compete with desktops. At least, that's the potential here with 14nm graphics offering 980 performance at $150.


Cool and all, but by the time they are released they will be years outdated and a cheapo card will most likely have better performance. :o
 
The new Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Neo are not designed for 4K gaming but 4K content. Its just not possible at the price point of these consoles to do that, hell they'd be hard pushed to do 1440P on AAA titles. I just want 60FPS at 1080P, with 4K support for Netflix, Sky etc.
 
4k gaming on a ps4? lol.

It can barely do 1080p without slowdown.

The current PS4, of course, but that's irrelevant as they're talking about the new generation PS4 rumoured to be out later this year.

All the same, I very much doubt it'll be able to handle real games at 4K. Maybe the smaller simple downloadable games but not AAA titles.
 
The current PS4, of course, but that's irrelevant as they're talking about the new generation PS4 rumoured to be out later this year.

Its not going to happen, just get the idea out of your head, there wont be 4k gaming on the next consoles, i expect them to be close or possible on the consoles after the next ones.
 
4k gaming on a ps4? lol.

It can barely do 1080p without slowdown.

well they made change to the ps4neo to output 4k, if that apply in gaming also, with that amount of compute and as noted sarcastically by tommybhoy, when a game is using async then can squeeze in more performance, enough to have 4k@20-30fps, it's not like it bothers them having that kind of fps we already have quite a few games running at sub 30.
 
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Its not going to happen, just get the idea out of your head, there wont be 4k gaming on the next consoles, i expect them to be close or possible on the consoles after the next ones.

If you look at the rest of my post, I said I very much doubt it. Of course it's not going to happen. Even a £600 GeForce 1080 can only just about do it. A £400 console has no chance whatsoever. Unless it's in smaller games that aren't complex in which case 4K resolution is pointless anyway.
 
While I'm not commenting on whether or not it's designed to play 4k games people in actuality, I believe are looking at this all the wrong way.

The Ps3 and xbox 360 spent years playing games at even 720p 30fps. And even now the xbox one will play at 900 60 or 1080p 30.

People saying a gtx 1080 can barely play 4k based on it struggling to reach 60fps in demanding games. A potential 4k console wouldn't be aiming itself like a PC gamer, an r9 390 can hold 30fps on a game like Doom at ultra. With the majority of games 30fps would be possible with some settings management. Yes, a few games would be too much, but some optimisation tweaking and settings management, and considering games like the witcher on release would drop below 30fps anyway, a console marketed as a 4k gaming machine is perfectly possible to do if Sony or Microsoft want it enough.

No it wouldn't be pretty, yes I'd rather 60fps on everything at 1080. But this is a business. Get a few games running at 4k, slap 4k marketing on everything, build hype, sell consoles.
 
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While I'm not commenting on whether or not it's designed to play 4k games people in actuality, I believe are looking at this all the wrong way.

The Ps3 and xbox 360 spent years playing games at even 720p 30fps. And even now the xbox one will play at 900 60 or 1080p 30.

People saying a gtx 1080 can barely play 4k based on it struggling to reach 60fps in demanding games. A potential 4k console wouldn't be aiming itself like a PC gamer, an r9 390 can hold 30fps on a game like Doom at ultra. With the majority of games 30fps would be possible with some settings management. Yes, a few games would be too much, but some optimisation tweaking and settings management, and considering games like the witcher on release would drop below 30fps anyway, a console marketed as a 4k gaming machine is perfectly possible to do if Sony or Microsoft want it enough.

No it wouldn't be pretty, yes I'd rather 60fps on everything at 1080. But this is a business. Get a few games running at 4k, slap 4k marketing on everything, build hype, sell consoles.

Most 4K TVs can only support 30HZ AFAIK??

Plus they don't need to run games at a native 4K anyway - upscaling will be perfectly fine. People don't sit right next to their TV screens like a computer monitor,and hence due to the much larger view distances they can get away with the reduction in image quality.
 
Im reading this ******** and...

There will be 4 k gaming on upgraded consoles...

Ever heard of INDIE GAMES ??
 
Most 4K TVs can only support 30HZ AFAIK??

Plus they don't need to run games at a native 4K anyway - upscaling will be perfectly fine. People don't sit right next to their TV screens like a computer monitor,and hence due to the much larger view distances they can get away with the reduction in image quality.

My TX-50DX750B is a 4k 60hz TV. I have watched 4k 30hz and its ugly. I believe 4k TV's with HDMI 2 are 60hz. I also dont like 1080p upscaled to 4k either.
Why are you talking about next gen consoles in a PC Graphics Card forum. I dont care about them or what GPU's they are using.
 
Next gen consoles need to be a compact pc, with an operating system thats designed similar to windows 8 where you can still use desktop applications as well as just chuck a disc in and start playing a game, or better yet just buy games online so it downloads them. i think thats the idea of the steam machine
 
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