You are describing a communist regime not a capitalist one.
In a capitalist setup it is more like "you produce a faster product and we will throw megabucks at it to own it".
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Next generation nvidia graphic cards ...where are they?
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You are describing a communist regime not a capitalist one.
In a capitalist setup it is more like "you produce a faster product and we will throw megabucks at it to own it".
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Really hoping for a refresh in about March / April time. Have sold lots of bits off and am ready for an upgrade!
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Yea i am bordering on getting out of PC gaming. I have a Ps4 pro and an xim 4 so can use Keyboard and mouse when i want. PC is just not that far ahead visually that spending thousands makes sense compared to £300-350. With the prices going up and up as people keep buying then i can see a lot more people beginning to wonder when enough is enough. It's up to people what they spend there money on but people spending £2700 on a gpu just for gaming shows Nvidia/AMD that there is plenty of life left in the milking. PC is still the best but i am to sensible to get the utter crap ripped out of me.
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*if you are doing DP compute intensive tasks such as GIS/AI/Climate Science
For what it is the Titan V is an absolute bargain.
Having said that it is not a serious gaming card and no serious gamer would buy it for that.
The Titan V is a very cheap compute card and I am surprised that NVidia even let it see the light of day.
Probably hoping small/medium sized entities will get hooked on the ecosystem (they are spending a lot of time building solutions for this) and they can lock them into higher prices down the line :s
Although with the limitations in supply that somewhat limits that.
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Yea i agree Kaap but you actually bought it for gaming. In a way you are the cause of this pricing. No offense meant but you did buy for gaming and you are part of why us PC gamers with not so big wallets might just give up.
I don't see the problem with halo cards - as long as the line up below them is more reasonably priced. Back in the day the top cards were pretty silly priced but the next one down usually had like 80% of the performance at a much lower price.
I got the Titan V for benching as I wanted to see what the Volta architecture was like.
They are nice cards but I would never recommend them to anyone for just gaming.
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Nah they were not. The top halo cards were not worth it then. I bought 9800pro/1900xtx and had a 8800gtx all for around similar money. There was no Halo card that couldn't be reached with a little overclocking. These days it's impossible as the best chip is way out of reach with Titan V. It's getting worse year on year to play games. Lets stop defending this BS and investing in it.
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Still mate you can build a really potent gaming system for that amount. It's around what i want to spend with a decent monitor involved. I do actually like that some in here will buy just to see the performance but it's getting way out of hand.
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These threads come up constantly and the reason is pretty obvious; new cards are due and will be released this year. People claiming that Nvidia won't release anything new because there's no competition... I mean come on, that's the very reason to do the opposite; anything they put out there will fly off the shelves.
Can anyone name a recent calendar year where Nvidia didn't release any new cards?
They are a huge business and they need constant sales/cashflow. Even the miners (Grrr) would jump on a performance increase in a heartbeat. People claim AMD are providing no competition like AMD have been pushing the boundaries up until now.
That's pretty insulting, to be fair. Do you shake your first at X5 drivers every time you pass them in your 1 series?
Can anyone name a recent calendar year where Nvidia didn't release any new cards?
They are a huge business and they need constant sales/cashflow. Even the miners (Grrr) would jump on a performance increase in a heartbeat. People claim AMD are providing no competition like AMD have been pushing the boundaries up until now.
That's pretty insulting, to be fair. Do you shake your first at X5 drivers every time you pass them in your 1 series?
I was laughing at one who was stuck in the snow on a slight incline this morning, as I drove past him easily in my Duster
Whilst thinking about how much money he'd wasted on that car.Does that make me a bad person?
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All the people so mad at the ultra high end cards and prices for the ‘Ferrari version’ make me laugh... Do you think Nvidia are developing in the billions of dollars aiming for low end? No. They develop for the best possible for a range of tasks and push the boundaries (did you miss all the compute and driverless car focus?) then figure out how to cut it down to hit your price ranges and or optimise/change it for gaming.
So really you should be thanking people that fund the development cycle and encourage them to push the boundaries or we would never see anything low-mid range at all. Be surprised if that quest for improvements stops because of a single business line.
So really you should be thanking people that fund the development cycle and encourage them to push the boundaries or we would never see anything low-mid range at all. Be surprised if that quest for improvements stops because of a single business line.
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I think it's more to do with perceived value for many consumers. What's the point of spending more than £300 on a GPU just to play souped up console ports? The days when PC gaming was pushing the envelope, graphically, and there was a night and day difference, is over. It's all parity now.
The only essential feature PC gaming has over it's console counterpart is higher frame rates, but even that could change in next gen consoles as they'll be HDMI 2.1 enabled and feature Variable Refresh Rates (VRR) out of the box.
If prices continue to remain high, you'll see loads of former PC gamers jump ship over to consoles. In fact it's happening already judging from many posts on this forum.
Still has utterly no relevance on why people are so agro about high end cards. You don’t have to spend over £300 but yet people seem to feel entitled to the best product for that figure.
Silly really... financial climates have driven price up more than anything.
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If Nvidia's next xx80 card costs over £700 then I'm officially out of PC gaming, I know we live in a capitalist society but greed can really ruin some thing, I bought a 1080 Ti FE for £649 on launch day, Any higher and it's a big nope.
I predict that NVidia will shock everyone, with a 970esq 1170/80. Without the compute functionality but squeezing as much performance out as they can and it will be cheap. Yes I'm predicting NVidia doing what many would seem to be unthinkable and reducing prices, it would bring 180ti performance, into the 1170 bracket at 1060 prices-ish. I reckon £300 for the 1170 and 499 for the 1180, without the compute functionality, but with good performance and probably GDDR6 on the 1180, but GDDR5x on the 1170, very similar to the 1070/80 separation.
Yes I know that nobody will believe that this could happen, but you never know and if you don't suggest it before hand you'll never know if you were right when it does happen.
GTC in march will be the day as we all know that Jensun loves to take the stage and bring the wow factor.
You heard it here first.
Yes I know that nobody will believe that this could happen, but you never know and if you don't suggest it before hand you'll never know if you were right when it does happen.
GTC in march will be the day as we all know that Jensun loves to take the stage and bring the wow factor.
You heard it here first.