Nexus 9

m4rk84 said:
You could compare it to the Nexus 10 which was more expensive then the Nexus 9 at launch.
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m4rk84 said:
it is not comparable to the fricking Mini [Nexus 10] which has two year old specs.
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m4rk84 said:
Every single device listed [The Nexus 10] has at least an inch smaller [bigger] screen and much much worse specs. Try harder.
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Ok I'm being cruel. Sorry.

I'm just saying that people are getting very hung up on the specs, which are to most people irrelevant. If you sacrifice the absolute top of the CPU specs, then you open up a world of options that contain a hell of a lot of additional bonuses. There is additional space, screen size and money to be had if you step back from looking solely at the CPU performance and look around.
 
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I'm comparing launch prices not suggesting they have comparable hardware like you were doing with the Mini 2.

I mean seriously how dumb is it to list the Mini and the Hudl as comparisons to the Nexus 9?

Would arguing that the Z3 is too expensive because the MotoG is less then £100 be a valid argument?
 
That was a comparison to the Mini 3.

And I wasn't comparing it to the Hudl, I was comparing it to 3 Hudl's and a crate of beer, for the purpose of including the casual user who doesn't understand the specs, but wants an 8-9" device to watch iPlayer on.
 
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m4rk84 said:
Howabout tablets with equal specs? Oh there aren't any...

You could compare it to the Nexus 10 which was more expensive then the Nexus 9 at launch.
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If it had a sd card slot I would have pre ordered it by now.

I don't see being first to get Lollipop as being a good thing. Google usually **** something up which gets fixed by the time everyone else releases theirs.
 
Mini 3 is the same as the Mini 2 with touch ID... they may as well have called it the Mini 2+.

Your argument is stupid because going for the top specs is a personal choice, of course going cheaper for worse specs and potential bonuses is an option but the fact remains that the Nexus 9 has reasonable pricing considering the internals it does have.
 
m4rk84 said:
Your argument is stupid because going for the top specs is a personal choice, of course going cheaper for worse specs and potential bonuses is an option but the fact remains that the Nexus 9 has reasonable pricing considering the internals it does have.
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And the problem is that viewpoint will be shared by about 0.01% of the people who buy tablets.

How many people out there can tell you the name of the chip inside their phone or tablet, let alone the speed of it? Compare that to how many people can tell you the size and resolution of their screen and capacity of their internal memory? Then work out which one of those categories sells tablets...
 
I'm pretty sure everybody on this forum is savvy enough when it comes to tablet specs to know what they are paying for when going for the Nexus 9 over the Hudl 2.
 
Yes, because the entire tablet buying market globally is represented by the population of the OcUK Mobiles and Tablets Sub Forum....

Now who's argument is stupid?
 
We are having the discussion on this forum arguing about the validity of the Nexus 9 pricing in the context of the people on this forum. I would say suddenly accounting for the entire world is pretty stupid.
 
m4rk84 said:
We are having the discussion on this forum arguing about the validity of the Nexus 9 pricing in the context of the people on this forum. I would say suddenly accounting for the entire world is pretty stupid.
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I'm pretty sure those N9 prices apply to everyone.... not just us?
 
I don't even understand the point you are trying to make anymore. You are agreeing the spec of the Nexus 9 is worth the money but it's not because the rest of the world is too stupid to know the internals are worth the money?

Wat...
 
I'm not agreeing the spec of the N9 is worth the money? If I did, I'd have bought one already. I've had money set aside for the new Nexus tablet for about 6 months!

The spec includes everyting. The N9 wins in one area, but is beaten by a range of other devices in a lot of other areas, and usually cheaper ones too. And then when you weigh up how your going to use the device, and therefore what in that spec is important, you realise some of the ones the N9 loses on are pretty big.

The Nexus 9 is not worth the money. Simple as that.
 
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Which areas? Just the SD slot?

The Nexus 9 has a larger sceen and better internals then every single device you can list that is cheaper.
 
Aspect ratio, capacity, price, connectivity, size. To me (and I expect most other people) some of those are more important than having a bigger epeen because of the specific processing capacity of the CPU.
 
Most of those are subjective. Many people much prefer a 4:3 ratio, size is bigger on the N9 then any of the devices you are comparing it too and the price is for the spec of the internals it has.

If they had made the N9 £100 cheaper with last years CPU/GPU just as many people would be moaning about the terrible specs.
 
Ok, taking that on. How many people watch movies or TV on their tablet? Lots. I certainly want a tablet for this.

When displaying a 16:9 (or wider) aspect ratio video (so... any recent TV or movie), the N9 offers a viewing area only 2.1% larger than the Shield, and actually 1.6% less than the Hudl.

You cannot blindly look at numbers on a spec sheet and proclaim which is best. You need to combine that with the devices use to get a clear view.
 
How many people much prefer browsing on a 4:3 screen? It's subjective.

I'm not suggesting the Nexus 9 is for everyone. I am saying it is not over priced for what it is, for anyone that wants pure Android on a modern spec tablet with a 4:3 screen the Nexus 9 represents fair value.
 
m4rk84 said:
for anyone that wants pure Android on a modern spec tablet with a 4:3 screen the Nexus 9 represents fair value.
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Is there an alternative to be able to qualify that? Obviously the N9 is the best value tablet in a category that includes just the N9. Thats like saying my current seating position is the best possible seating position in a choice of seating positions that includes just this seating position.
 
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