tell me how far away it is first.
Nibiru..2012 the end?
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tell me how far away it is first.
nibiru is Sumerian
wormwood is Hebrew
Mayans do not foretell of a planet coming just of a great catastrophe. Your getting confused.
I am not saying they refer to 21/12/2012 but there are a lot of cultures that have similar stories foretold in them.Where Did I say 21/12/2012 is they link between those cultures?
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LOL, no
How can you not have a tiny bit of doubt that this can and has happened before? We all know that there has been multiple extinction events on this planet, could this be why?
Wait.. what?
If it's too far away to be seen, keeping in mind the farthest object pictured (admittedly a galaxy, so somewhat larger) is 13 billion lightyears away.
It would have to be moving at some speed to reach us by 2012 if we can't yet see it.
And completely irrelevant to the point that I am willing to repeat over and over again:
21/12/2012 is a specific date in one of the Mayan calendars, usually referred to nowadays as the Mayan long count calendar. Shown in the date format that we use now, obviously, but a specfic date on the Mayan long count calendar.
The dates in the Mayan long count calendar are wholly religious. You can't separate them from the religion.
So you can't seperate the Mayan date from the Mayan religion. In order to attach any significance to the date of 21/12/2012, you must, absolutely must, believe at least in the creation story of the Mayan religion.
It's like believing that the end of life as we know it will happen on 23/10/2996 because that's 7000 years after the creation of the Earth and 7000 years is 7 days for God (6 days of creation and one of rest). That doesn't make any sense outside of Christianity and cannot be seperated from it.
Incidentally, there were people who thought that it would happen on the 23/10/1996 (no day of rest).
Like every other such religious prophecy over the millenia, they were wrong. Your religious prophecy date of 21/12/2012 is no more likely to be right than all of the other religious prophecy dates.
Yeah, that wasm't exactly serious.
But if we can see a galaxy 13 billion light years away why wouldn't we be able to see a planet that's meant to be very close?
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What I find amazing is that some of you believe in God, yet cannot accept that 'Planet X' may exist.
The reason that it cannot be seen, apparently, is that it's orbit is at 90 degrees to the Milky Way, so it's approach is from under the planet. According to what I have read, there are very few places in the world where it can be seen, they are all in the Southern Hemisphere.
The reason that it cannot be seen, apparently, is that it's orbit is at 90 degrees to the Milky Way, so it's approach is from under the planet. According to what I have read, there are very few places in the world where it can be seen, they are all in the Southern Hemisphere.
well we can see brown dwarfs over 13 light years away, so like i said it's going to need a freaking warp core to get here in 3.
This is a thread about that date, talking about a prophecy that very specfically gives that date. You've been talking about that prophecy. If you think that every other believer is wrong about the date, you should have said so.
Go look at some other believers and see if they have Nibiru and Mayan religious stories and the date of 21/12/2012, all as the same prophecy. They do, don't they? I'm not getting confused - I know what the prophecy is. I also know that it's rubbish.
lol, nice analogy, God is immaterial.
Obviously not, as they have not occured at precisely regular intervals.
So in addition to this magic star being impossible to detect and having no mavity until it gets close to Earth, you're now suggesting that it varies enormously in velocity.
Is it a Death Star?
Nah, it would only need to be travelling at 4843528245.12 km/h to reach us...
Why would it only be possible from very few places?
Why has no-one seen it? Bear in mind that it would now be as bright as the full moon (if it was a brown dwarf).
Why is its orbit at 90 degrees to the Milky Way, whatever that means? Do you mean 90 degrees to the ecliptic plane of our solar system? If so, why the 90 degrees?
There isn't really any such thing as "under the planet". It's not like Planet X could be hiding in the cellar.
But you see in Australia, it will be above you, since its down under right?
I'm moving my estimates up a bit more:
Even if the entirely fictional Nibiru was just a gas giant and not a brown dwarf, it would still be visible from Earth now. Not with naked eye, but with a decent telescope. So at least tens of thousands of people would be able to see it.
Although how a gas giant could be on a ~3600 year weirdly elliptical orbit around the sun at 90 degrees to the ecliptic plane is beyond me. I'd like to see an explanation of that one.
Even if the entirely fictional Nibiru was just a gas giant and not a brown dwarf, it would still be visible from Earth now. Not with naked eye, but with a decent telescope. So at least tens of thousands of people would be able to see it.
Although how a gas giant could be on a ~3600 year weirdly elliptical orbit around the sun at 90 degrees to the ecliptic plane is beyond me. I'd like to see an explanation of that one.
what I find strange is this
1. we surly would see it if its *that* close, if its due to be here in 2012 it must be quite close, unless your saying its going very fast and I mean oddly fast, which is what they hell us pulling that thing towards us? and surly we would be knocked out of orbit too by it
2. which leads me to think how can such a huge body of mass come at us like that?
3. finally the thing called mavity, each planet as a relationship with each other with this, if some big is indeed in the solar system not only we but those planets closest to us (Venus and Mars) would see the effect as well, from its pull, unless your telling me it has no mavity, which most likely would be a incorrect statement.
particularly being as big as the sun itself
1. we surly would see it if its *that* close, if its due to be here in 2012 it must be quite close, unless your saying its going very fast and I mean oddly fast, which is what they hell us pulling that thing towards us? and surly we would be knocked out of orbit too by it
2. which leads me to think how can such a huge body of mass come at us like that?
3. finally the thing called mavity, each planet as a relationship with each other with this, if some big is indeed in the solar system not only we but those planets closest to us (Venus and Mars) would see the effect as well, from its pull, unless your telling me it has no mavity, which most likely would be a incorrect statement.
particularly being as big as the sun itself
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Let's go back to the last one we know about - the one that wiped out the Dinosaurs.
If man had been around with their telescopes they would have seen the asteroid coming years before the event.
The asteroid would have not been hiding behind a planet for millennia and then suddenly come out of hiding.
Nibiru is not there, it is a myth made up by a man.