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Zefan said:
From that point of view, what are the point in infractions then?

In the past an infraction would have been my first instinct. There's never fully unstarred swearies anymore due to the filter so I reckon a warning should suffice. Usernotes are there to catch the repeat offenders, as like you say some don't learn.

:edit: Then again I guess maybe my point of view is "too soft" as I believe it was called in the past.
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This was the point I was trying to make. It's efficiency at the cost of alienation. If the workload involved in giving infractions and potentially risking repeat offences is too much, then there aren't enough mods.
 
What about if I write I got shot with a gun? But star out the two centre letters? That's not disguised swearing...I'm too much of a coward to do it tho.
 
Devrij said:
This was the point I was trying to make. It's efficiency at the cost of alienation. If the workload involved in giving infractions and potentially risking repeat offences is too much, then there aren't enough mods.
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Maybe you're right, it doesn't seem very many for so many posts a day.
 
Mason- said:
That's not a leading question. That's a ridiculous conclusion he's drawn from what he's said, somehow, because I can't see anywhere in the OP that would lead him to think that. He's trying to put the OP in a dilemma and restrict his options.

The OP is clearly saying that he thinks the decision was harsh and then, poorly I might add, tried to justify his actions by saying "Oh so and so got away with it". The swearing part isn't the issue I don't think. The OP is more annoyed about the fact that he got a suspension for one offense.
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His next question, when the OP replied "obviously not", was "how starred out does a sweary need to be before it isn't a sweary? The obvious point he was trying to make was that the rule is there because NOT fully starring swearies is open to abuse, but fully starring is always satisfactory. He was just getting the OP to agree to the principles first before explaining that.

And if you read my other posts, I agree that she should have received an infraction rather than a suspension. Although I also conceded that with his post count he should know better.
 
Devrij said:
You should add a rule that states you will be suspended for offences that show you did not read the FAQ. Then when they read it they while on their suspension they won't come back and complain.
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Or, he could have read the rules in the first place and not broke them? Then none of this would have happened. :)
 
Telescopi said:
Do you need a hand getting that sand out?
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No thanks, I have a power washer.

So to recap. You've asked a question about the OP that is irrelevant to the point he's trying to make.

The OP has replied, restating his point to make it more clear.

You again reply talking about how you think the OP wants to change the rules on swearing.

I've tried to highlight where you've gone wrong and you've chose to ignore it.

Well this has gone down perfectly I'm outta here.

And just in case you still don't get his point, it's here:
Syla5 said:
My point was merely that i breached a rule, but the punishement superceeded the offence, quite significantly. Its like giving someone a life sentence for doing 34mph in a 30.

I cant take anything away from the mods, someones got to do the job, for free as well, but i have found in life that sometimes a little polite decorum goes a long way.
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Telescopi said:
So no swearing is good but partial swearing is okay. How partial - one letter starred, two? how about three or only when it's obvious what it means to (to who?) or any other variation you can think of? It quickly becomes impossible to judge anything and as a result nothing is judged.
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No i thought i had complied and didnt realise that partial starring out wasnt enough, as i pointed out totally my fault.

However the auto censor covers up a multitude of other sinners without them realising, so surely my clear attempt to not offend on a higher level by at least doing something actively should count towards something?

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Regarding punishment nobody takes notice of a slap on the wrist and as you rightly point out mostly people get away with it - so what would be the point in having a rule if people mostly got away with it and only got a slap on the wrist on the one occasion it was spotted?

I'm all for being reasonable and pragmatic but you're not seeing that idea from the other side of the fence. It simply isn't possible for a few volunteer mods to do what you ask.
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Your first point you have very much generalised the population in to one bucket and sadly i disagree here, i would have fully taken note of a slap on the wrist and adhered in full to the advise at that point.

My point was merely that i breached a rule, but the punishement superceeded the offence, quite significantly. Its like giving someone a life sentence for doing 34mph in a 30.

I cant take anything away from the mods, someones got to do the job, for free as well, but i have found in life that sometimes a little polite decorum goes a long way.
 
Devrij said:
His next question, when the OP replied "obviously not", was "how starred out does a sweary need to be before it isn't a sweary? The obvious point he was trying to make was that the rule is there because NOT fully starring swearies is open to abuse, but fully starring is always satisfactory. He was just getting the OP to agree to the principles first before explaining that.

And if you read my other posts, I agree that she should have received an infraction rather than a suspension. Although I also conceded that with his post count he should know better.
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It's irrelevant.

It doesn't matter if you're bumping up a thread in the MM or not starring out a sweary. A first offense, for something so trivial, should not be a suspension.

The OP understands the rules. It's quite obvious from his second post. He doesn't understand why he was suspended for one offense.

Syla5 said:
Your first point you have very much generalised the population in to one bucket and sadly i disagree here, i would have fully taken note of a slap on the wrist and adhered in full to the advise at that point.

My point was merely that i breached a rule, but the punishement superceeded the offence, quite significantly. Its like giving someone a life sentence for doing 34mph in a 30.

I cant take anything away from the mods, someones got to do the job, for free as well, but i have found in life that sometimes a little polite decorum goes a long way.
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