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Doofer most of us have our email in Trust or it's in the FAQ to contact us. It's only because you were posting the same thing over and over and again!

So why is 'pancake' allowed? This is what I mean by consistency...
 
Yeah but the police can give you a fine, they can also give you a warning but you've got no guarantee of it, depends on the man on the day. I guess a 2 day sus is our equivilant of a fine and 3 points.



As Zefan says it comes down to consistency and just like the kindly plod who let you off for having a bad day some mods will just edit it while others will sus. I'm not sure we know what infractions are for, some use them for one thing, others for something else and some not at all. Personally I just edit and if I use them at all I use infractions to send a message (pms would cause less friction for that, but they're disabled). I'm not the most active moderator though I'll admit :)

This, I think, is worth examining. Perhaps some clarity from on high to how the rules should be enforced would benefit both the users and mods, and we could all hug and make sweet sweet love. It seems to be the inconsistency that causes these outcries of "heavy-handedness", but I also get that there needs to be some kind of flexibility for certain circumstances. I suspect that flexibility can work both ways though, as in this case.

It may just be an internet forum, but it's also the community that kept me coming back (and shopping at OcUK), so I think it's worth looking at seriously.
 
First off, I agree with both of you. I think a suspension was a bit harsh for a first offense, given that he DID attempt to star out the word and his intentions were good. I've already said as much several times. An infraction would have made him aware, and perhaps motivated him to re-read the FAQ to refresh himself on the other rules.

However, he clearly did NOT understand the rule, as he states he wasn't aware of the fully starring out swearing rule. It's hard to miss with all the yellow text where it has been edited out of posts and reminding the poster to fully star out swearies, and it's in the FAQ, so someone with over 1000 posts should know it by now.

Telescopi was explaining WHY it has to be fully starred out so the OP would understand its existence better.


Okay so as follows:

1) OP doesn't read rules (or doesn't fully understand). Breaks one. Gets suspended. Reads rules. Better after suspension.

2) OP doesn't read rules (or doesn't fully understand). Breaks one. Gets a warning and pointed towards FAQ. Reads rules. Better afterwards, no suspension.
- If OP then breaks rule again, he obviously hasn't read the rules, and fair enough. A suspension is justified in my opinion.

IMO, option 2 is a much better route to take, it would prevent threads like these for a start. It's much more friendly and helpful than the first, it sends out the vibe of "Hey there, you made a boo-boo but it's okay, it's your first one, read the rules better next time" (said in the voice of the camp guy from family guy).
 
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Characters from eastenders appear to live their lives without swearing.... Don't see why we can't
 
Okay so as follows:

1) OP doesn't read rules (or doesn't fully understand). Breaks one. Gets suspended. Reads rules. Better after suspension.

2) OP doesn't read rules (or doesn't fully understand). Breaks one. Gets a warning and pointed towards FAQ. Reads rules. Better afterwards, no suspension.
- If OP then breaks rule again, he obviously hasn't read the rules, and fair enough. A suspension is justified in my opinion.

My views exactly. The mods have said that option 2 just leads to re-offending, but I think that is codswallop, and that re-offenders would be in the minority (although a minority on here is still a lot of people to have to deal with).

My assertion is that if option 2 is too much work for the moderating team, they need more mods to do it, rather than resorting to option 1 and risking alienating themselves from new members that might have made good contributions later on once they understood the rules better.
 
I got suspended for typing GT*I (without the star) in a football thread when my team scored so WT* shouldn't be allowed either.

Thats very "lol" tbh :D

Thing is, using a starred out word is just as bad surely. The *'s denote a swear word, so all that is going on is the reader needs to take a easy guess as to what the word could be.
It doesn't stop swearing at all. If anything it encourages it, because people can associate the stars with words rather than be punished for actually posting the real word.
 
What you are all forgetting is that:

  1. The mod team can do whatever the Hell they like, this is no democracy.
  2. Mod behaviour will differ from person to person.
  3. It's not hard to read the rules and behave. Plenty of people have been here for a decade.
 
What you are all forgetting is that:

  1. The mod team can do whatever the Hell they like, this is no democracy.
  2. Mod behaviour will differ from person to person.
  3. It's not hard to read the rules and behave. Plenty of people have been here for a decade.

Indeed... Why be reasonable when you don't have to? >.>
 
It's hard to miss with all the yellow text where it has been edited out of posts and reminding the poster to fully star out swearies, and it's in the FAQ, so someone with over 1000 posts should know it by now.

in my defence, i havent seen any yellow text related to swearing before, just yellow text on removed posts for not being relavant to the topic etc.

95% of my posts have appeared in the Sports Arena, specifically the gym rats thread, which suffers from very little moderation due to the general level of respect there seems to be there.

ho hum, point made, i was miffed, not big time, but enough to have wanted to make this thread, and it would appear that i am not the only one.
There is some mod attention here, and maybe, just a small chance here, a behind the scenes Don discussion may take place to put a blanket rule on this, who knows, but if i hadnt of made the post, then the possibility of that discussion would have been less for sure.
 
This does come up from time to time so if a change or a blanket rule were to be put in effect it probably would have been done by now.
 
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