Nicked - For Road Rage!

You were in the right, then you did something fairly silly and want to go and get revenge?

Just learn from it and move on, revenge makes for a very bitter person, especially when its you in the wrong..
 
Sorry to hear that the police treated you so badly, but you're lucky this guy wasnt a psycho. What happens if he recognises your wife and kids about town etc?

End of the day, it's not worth it. Your wife should have given you a No swearing! telling off.
 
Morba said:
if someone is coming at me aggressively and im fight not flight mode, then the door becomes a weapon before he gets to put any pressure on.
a handy trick if timing is right :]

i had a similar incident to this

a while back i was driving down our road to go home. There was traffic up ahead and it wasnt moving. I sat waiting for a few minutes, then started to make an effort to see what was going on. Turns out because none of our houses have off street parking, two cars had driven down the road that only one could fit through and neither were backing off blocking the whole road causing a huge tailback of about 10 cars either side. So i started to beep my horn, and shouted down the road "come on". Everybody else was being very british and not saying anything and acting like they didnt care while we all sat round and waited for them to be childish. I kept beeping my horn about every 2/3 minutes or so, as did a few others. By now we'd been waiting best part of 10 minutes and still neither would budge. Im sat in the car with my wife, and some middle aged bloke comes out of nowhere and leans in my open window sticks his finger right in my face and yells at me " if you beep that ****ing horn once more ill ram it down your throat". what happened next i cant really explain. I think because he was higher than me, in my face and with me seatbelted into a car and unable to retaliate i just lept out of the car at him, without my fists out or anything, just got out rapidly. He makes a half hearted swing at me, but i grab his wrists and push him up against some1s wall and tell him "dont make me punch you old man". He starts to struggle but i hold on, then his wife comes out from the house behind, and my GF comes out. I left go and walk away but then we exchange words
so threatenned that i thought the only thing to do would be to bring us on
but even now i cant explain why i got out of the car at him. its so totally unlike me as im so not a keyboard warrior. I can only think its because i felt equal footing. but i dont remember ever making a conscious decision that this would be the best course of action.

Im not normally the road rage type, ive had several people follow me. The worst was the white van man i beeped for cutting me up. He pulled along side me, leant out of his window and spat at me threw my open window. I just closed it, locked the doors, and sat there looking away and gave him the finger. He cut me up then raced ahead, and pulled into a side street. I thought no more of it, anyway about 1/2 miles further up the road he caught me up. Hed obviously nipped home to get something to come back for a fight for. God knows what. He was yelling at me calling me a coward, but i did a bit of side street sharp turns, a bit of cutting people up and a bit of red light jumping and lost him after 2/3 minutes or so. But he was calling me a coward and all names under the sun.

Others have called me a coward for not squaring up to him. But its for exactly reasons like this that i never rise to it. It just doesnt get you anywhere. Just be glad you've learnt this lesson (that its pointless fighting these @%*$ers) and got off with a police caution.
 
Not sure who is worse TBH. Neither of you acted like responsible adults and you defiantley have set a very poor example to your kids.

There are nutters out there that have been known to shoot/stab people in this kind of incident.
 
MrLOL said:
i had a similar incident to this

a while back i was driving down our road to go home. There was traffic up ahead and it wasnt moving. I sat waiting for a few minutes, then started to make an effort to see what was going on. Turns out because none of our houses have off street parking, two cars had driven down the road that only one could fit through and neither were backing off blocking the whole road causing a huge tailback of about 10 cars either side. So i started to beep my horn, and shouted down the road "come on". Everybody else was being very british and not saying anything and acting like they didnt care while we all sat round and waited for them to be childish. I kept beeping my horn about every 2/3 minutes or so, as did a few others. By now we'd been waiting best part of 10 minutes and still neither would budge. Im sat in the car with my wife, and some middle aged bloke comes out of nowhere and leans in my open window sticks his finger right in my face and yells at me " if you beep that ****ing horn once more ill ram it down your throat". what happened next i cant really explain. I think because he was higher than me, in my face and with me seatbelted into a car and unable to retaliate i just lept out of the car at him, without my fists out or anything, just got out rapidly. He makes a half hearted swing at me, but i grab his wrists and push him up against some1s wall and tell him "dont make me punch you old man". He starts to struggle but i hold on, then his wife comes out from the house behind, and my GF comes out. I left go and walk away but then we exchange words
so threatenned that i thought the only thing to do would be to bring us on
but even now i cant explain why i got out of the car at him. its so totally unlike me as im so not a keyboard warrior. I can only think its because i felt equal footing. but i dont remember ever making a conscious decision that this would be the best course of action.

Im not normally the road rage type, ive had several people follow me. The worst was the white van man i beeped for cutting me up. He pulled along side me, leant out of his window and spat at me threw my open window. I just closed it, locked the doors, and sat there looking away and gave him the finger. He cut me up then raced ahead, and pulled into a side street. I thought no more of it, anyway about 1/2 miles further up the road he caught me up. Hed obviously nipped home to get something to come back for a fight for. God knows what. He was yelling at me calling me a coward, but i did a bit of side street sharp turns, a bit of cutting people up and a bit of red light jumping and lost him after 2/3 minutes or so. But he was calling me a coward and all names under the sun.

Others have called me a coward for not squaring up to him. But its for exactly reasons like this that i never rise to it. It just doesnt get you anywhere. Just be glad you've learnt this lesson (that its pointless fighting these @%*$ers) and got off with a police caution.


You had your wife and gf in the car at the same time ? :p
 
Cybergangster said:
I retaliated by punching him through the open window - Bam! Right on the nose. This incident had moved to a new level and I knew there was no way to avoid a confrontation. I then stepped back and told my wife (who was shielding the kids) to phone the police.





The police eventually turned up and took our statements. I was asked if I wanted to press charges. I said I was willing to let this go if he was. Shortly after the officer who was interviewing the driver walked over to me and informed me that I was being arrested on grounds of assault.


I did pay a visit to his house late on Sunday, just to confirm I had the right address. It's a quite back street and his car (53 reg Audi A4) is parked right outside. If I fancy I could splash some glossy paint over his car or just fill the exhaust with poly filler. Another option is to stuff some dog crap through the letter box or leave a treat under the car door handles. I'm going to wait a few weeks before I choose what to do - just to let my blood cool down and not make any more stupid mistakes.


Congratulations mate, you're a thug! Not only that, but you have a criminal record now too! :D Employers will be flocking to you! It's lucky you don't have any responsibilities...

Also good to know you're teaching your kids the importance of violence. Paint on his car sounds like the sort of revenge that's necessary here, may I suggest matt green? Will certaintly get him where it hurts! Remember, an eye for an eye is the way forward in this world - I mean the worst he can do to you, even if he is an utter psycho, is throw paint at your car - and not go for your kids! Lol!

You have kids. SURELY you should have known this was a bad idea, I mean, how hard is it to walk away.
 
Like you have already said, you brought it on yourself, and accusing him of being a self pleaser because he uses his horn is always gonna inflame the situation..

I now find the best way to deal with people like that is to just smile....

You can never be accused of causing a fight if you just smile...

Imagine it in court

Prosecutor "so what did he do to agravate you"

Accused "he smiled at me"

;)
 
I think calling him a ****** was to be expected if he did act in the manner you have described.

It's when you went up to his car and held the door shut that you've crossed the line and provoked him.
 
You realise that now that you've got a caution, you may find travel to certain countries is restricted.

The United States, for example, will not let you enter the country on the visa waiver program if you have a criminal record. You have to apply for a visa (which can take months to process and is not guaranteed to be granted).

Don't know if this bothers you or not.
 
FincH said:
I think calling him a ****** was to be expected if he did act in the manner you have described.

It's when you went up to his car and held the door shut that you've crossed the line and provoked him.

This is not necessarily the case. It is entirely possible that he had already decided on a violent response and was getting out so he'd have all his weapons available. If so, then holding the door shut is in fact legal, justified self defence.

On the other hand, maybe cybergangster is just a thug. I don't know, I don't know anything about the guy.
 
osc89er said:
This is not necessarily the case. It is entirely possible that he had already decided on a violent response and was getting out so he'd have all his weapons available. If so, then holding the door shut is in fact legal, justified self defence.

On the other hand, maybe cybergangster is just a thug. I don't know, I don't know anything about the guy.

I didn't see any mention of weapons at all in the opening post and the thread starter walked over to the car and held the door shut and started making what in my opinion is a threat.

If someone had called me a 'masturbator' for beeping then held my car door shut and told me what to do, I'd be pretty annoyed.
 
Read it again.. the guy actually swerved his car across the road blocking the lanes and went to jump out of his car.. the OP didnt call him a 'masturbator' then run over to shut his door.. he called in the 'masturbator' then the guy blocked traffic stoped his car closer to the op and went to exit his car.. so he held the door shut..

:o
 
I used to suffer with a short fuse like that but after being faced with some drug dealing psycho screaming "do you want me to knock you the **** out" an inch away from my face whilst continually eyeing up a 6 inch kitchen knife about 3 feet away from him I've learned that letting the morons of the world just roll off your back is the best course of action.

TBH it sounds like you know you did the wrong thing, in terms of your own safety and rising to the other guys bait etc. Just try and remember all this hassle next time your about to blow up.
 
Don't seen any reason to be guesturing at someone for beeping tbh - yea he's a tool - so what. Not to mention having a fight infront of the kids. :rolleyes:
 
Am i the only one who doesnt think beating the guy up was wrong, but how he handled the police certainly was. :confused: :(
 
willd58 said:
Am i the only one who doesnt think beating the guy up was wrong, but how he handled the police certainly was. :confused: :(

i wouldn't go as far as saying what he did was right, but right up till holding the door closed i proberbly would have done the same. But i'm a vert chilled person, the only fight ive ever been in i got punched once in the face and walked of laughing at the guy (actually made me look harder apparently, i just found the whole thing really quiet ludicros)

The way the guy in the car acted was pretty deplorable, as was the way the police acted, and i'm not one for violence but the guy in the car sounds like a total tool.
 
I wonder how many of us would have acted in a similar way...
I'm not a violent person but if someone was to physically swerve their car across the road with the intention of confronting/assaulting me in front of my family, I suspect I would want to be making the first move.
If this guy in the car was in such a mega hurry that he felt it necessary to blast his horn, wtf didn't he just drive off when the OP was holding his door? I would have.
 
Some harsh comments here, means I cant do any :(

Nah, it happens. Sometimes your bad side gets the better of you and only after do you reflect and think woah! It was a mistake on both sides, but these days drivers are very angry and I blame it on work+stress. No one seems to be able to take any crap when driving, regardless of what it is and many carry weapons. You my friend, are lucky, had he a knife or something god forbid what would have happened to you AND your family!

One young lad got in the way on a tight gap of busy two way road, so the older guy got him out of the car and beat the crap out of him so bad that the ambulance arrived, tried to revive him but he didnt make it.....just one example of many pathetic and easily avoidable situations.

Live and learn, we all make mistakes. I would walk away though, to start something now is just stupid. You are a family man, not Tony Soprano.
 
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