No intrusive lights at night

S@njay said:
Keep the cities and streets lighted for saftey. And go to a field to look at stars.

That's exactly the problem, there aren't any fields far enough away from light pollution in most of the country.
 
Cueball said:
I'm with basmic. The motion-activated security lights are a real PITA. I have no problems with them in general, it's when they go off when you simply walk past the house that annoys me. Not only this, but most owners have their lights so it illuminates half the ******* street as well.

Halogen security-lights = great.
Positioning Halogen security-lights in places where they practically turn night into day for half the street and/or go off whenever someone merely walks past the house on the street = bad.

When I've been running at night, there are some areas where I can light up half the street as a go past on the pavement. Pointless.
 
I don't think the security lights are too big of a problem except when they are either too sensitive or angled up at peoples bedroom windows, i would like to see orange free cloudy sky's not just to see stars, i think it looks horrible to see the sky orange when its cloudy, why can't they sort out some sort of street light sensor network so that when a car or person comes along the lights light up a certain distance ahead?
 
Radiation said:
I don't think the security lights are too big of a problem except when they are either too sensitive or angled up at peoples bedroom windows, i would like to see orange free cloudy sky's not just to see stars, i think it looks horrible to see the sky orange when its cloudy, why can't they sort out some sort of street light sensor network so that when a car or person comes along the lights light up a certain distance ahead?

It would cost money! Idealy, LDR's connected to each lampost that controls the one ahead.

Cant complain too much, the UK is a better place to live than other contries! If only we got a few things right!!
 
You think it's silly? I am glad they've done this our neighbours have an outdoor light at the back of their house which is on all night that shines directly into my bedroom window and our living room window it's a pain. Now they have to move it as previously they have refused when asked.
 
How exactly does this affect the average householder? For example, if I'm out at night, I leave my hall light on so the house doesn't appear empty, and also so I don't fall over my cat going out as I come back in. Would I be made to turn this off?
 
Bracco said:
How exactly does this affect the average householder? For example, if I'm out at night, I leave my hall light on so the house doesn't appear empty, and also so I don't fall over my cat going out as I come back in. Would I be made to turn this off?
Why not just the light on before you enter the house? ;)
 
Anyone got any links to back this up. It's all interesting debate, but I didn't watch Channel Five today, so I'm totally in the dark.



PS - Pun intended.
 
I welcome this. Our next door neighbour has a larger garden than most, so his crosses across the back of ours, at the end he has a garage which leads on to the next street. He's fitted a halogen security light to this garage which is facing directly at the back of my house. On top of that, just the other day the people that live in the house directly opposite mine over the way have fitted a halogen security light. Add to this the scores of cats roaming about and I get the lxury of not one, but two of these annoying things shining at the back of my house. Not to mentipn the scores of other 5000000 watt halogen security lights along all the other houses.

I honestly don't see the point in them, does anyone run to their windows to check what's set it off every time or do they now just ignore them under the assumption it's some animal / tree/ fart in the wind that's done it?

If these people are so desperate to have them then they should be forced to install them so they face their OWN house.
 
Sounds like a good idea for the guys with A-hole neighbours. Looking out my window justnow,none of my neighbours have lights. The only light is from the block of flats down the hill a bit which is orange so doesnt really do much and the flats further down again with the same orange light to light the back of the flats.

If my neighbours refused to move their lights i would take it upon myself to do it at 4am! My neighbours are in their 60's at each end and are pretty cool though :D

Actually we have one of those spotlights in the cupboard but never put it up! Why put a light up to help thieves see what they are doing!! Duh! Just hear them and take a baseball bat to say high(junkie trying to steal my bike from the shed,braking a batton off when he could have just pulled the door :p )

Edit: The front room is a bit of a No swearing! as it faces the street so you get the orange streetlight glow and some light on the front of the flats further up the hill. Must have done my dads head in trying to get a sleep when he's on 12hour shifts cause he bought a second blackout blind lol :o
 
Bracco said:
Have you ever tried to walk in a door to turn a light on while a cat is trying to run out?

Every bloody day when she wants fed! grrr.

Its worse when you TRY to walk in the dark and end up putting your toe into a bottle of beer or something! :rolleyes:
 
.SJ said:
My neighbour leaves their garden light on all night and it shines through my window. :mad: Bring it on.


Amen to that, the people who live opposite me have something like a 500W halogen security light above their door, but for some reason decided that it should point upwards. Suprise suprise whenever someone walks past their house at 3 in the morning my room lights up like its the 4th of July.

If he doesn't do anything now he's gonna get a talking to :mad:
 
Berserker said:
Anyone got any links to back this up. It's all interesting debate, but I didn't watch Channel Five today, so I'm totally in the dark.
Bump, as no-one's convinced me this is anything more than discussion. :)
 
Gilly said:
I used to be able to see a lot of stars and although I don't live in a densely populated area I usually can't through light pollution.

You'll certainly be affected my Leeds' light pollution, and maybe Sheffields too. Nowadays you have to be a suprising distance from even moderately built up areas to have a real clear view of the sky. I have a 'dark skies' map, covering the whole of the UK and Ireland. It shows, in progressively different shades, the faintest stars visible from each region. Even the heart of the Peak District is shrouded by light pollution from Manchester, Sheffield and Derby to the south.

One of the biggest problems are industrial estates. You know the type- large, fabricated distribution warehouses that feel the need to plaster their outside edges with huge halogen 'security' lights whos combined power would easily top several KW. They often point in directions so that their light is beaming unecessarily, and intrusively. I really should take some photos to illustrate this effect, because as an astronomer myself, it's a real problem. Not to mention that all these huge 'security' lights are wasting electricity, too.
 
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