No Mans Sky - NEXT

Fair play to them actually getting round to releasing what they promised, a lot of steam green light devs could do with learning from these guys instead of earning their money then dropping projects. I have to say the No Man Sky is one of my favourite 'scandals' in history. The meltdowns of some of the fan boys was hilarious. :p
 
Fair play to them actually getting round to releasing what they promised, a lot of steam green light devs could do with learning from these guys instead of earning their money then dropping projects. I have to say the No Man Sky is one of my favourite 'scandals' in history. The meltdowns of some of the fan boys was hilarious. :p

They should learn from other devs. When a game has plans of features but none of those features are in the game and won't be for years, there's a name for games like that. It's called early access. Games release like this all the time and you support the development as it gets better.

That is where they went wrong. I don't judge ark for missing features years ago as it was early access. But many judge nms for releasing as a full game when it wasn't one. It still isn't imo going to be one with this latest release but on its way.

I guarantee people would not be hating on this game had they done that.
 
They should learn from other devs. When a game has plans of features but none of those features are in the game and won't be for years, there's a name for games like that. It's called early access. Games release like this all the time and you support the development as it gets better.

That is where they went wrong. I don't judge ark for missing features years ago as it was early access. But many judge nms for releasing as a full game when it wasn't one. It still isn't imo going to be one with this latest release but on its way.

I guarantee people would not be hating on this game had they done that.

I think Sony has a lot to do with the rush to release. Early access works for PC but a bit more difficult for PS4.
 
is this played and confirmed content. As we know how well NMS make trailers for missing content. But certainly must say is a big improvement seeing characters, as well as what looks to be online play.

I really hope more content is there as i still felt the game was a an empty shell, but with friends at least something slightly interesting can happen and more content can be added
 
I don't understand why there are so many people defending this game and getting annoyed at people when they're making comments about not trusting the studio, nor the head of the studio after all the lies he spouted and the pile of rubbish that this was on release. People expected a certain product and got something entirely different rammed down their throat, and then had a whole month of absolutely nothing from the studio. Steam actually removed this game from their store, something which very rarely happens. The game was an utter shambolic mess and the hype that was generated around it, whether through Sony or whoever, was undoubtedly pushed further by Murray's constant lies on every platform that he was interviewed on (look up the videos if you need the evidence). The whole situation reeked of "we can give whatever we want to gamers and they'll pay up for it and who cares what happens afterward".

Now, two years on (which is a crazy amount of time to be honest) they're releasing an update and promising that it'll come close to what the game should have been on release, how can you blame people for not trusting any of this? All we've got now is another trailer (don't forget that it was trailer and pre-rendered footage that caused all these issues for them in the first place) showing very little substance and everyone is expected to get massively excited about this?

I understand that some here paid for the game and are happy to support it, but you can't blame the rest of us for feeling let down and annoyed at how we've been treated by the studio. I didn't pre-order the game because I felt that, although it was an exciting concept when I first heard about it, I felt that the project was a little too ambitious. After not preordering it and watching it spontaneously combust into a pile of ash after release I decided it definitely wasn't getting my money then because it simply wasn't worth it. I didn't want to invest in a broken game made by a studio that had effectively ignored it's fanbase. Since then, I've watched plenty of live streaming of it and also YouTube videos of actual play throughs and decided that it wasn't for me after even the newer Atlas Rises update because the gameplay looks shallow, samey, and a bit boring after a while. The space stuff doesn't look great, the way you fly into space and then everything just pops in doesn't work for me as it breaks the immersion. That doesn't look to have changed given that the same thing happens in the new trailer. It seems to me that, whilst it's an endless universe, your options within the game simply aren't. It isn't really a sandbox, there's only a finite amount of things that you can do and once you've got a few ships, it seems that there's little reason to go for newer ones because they don't give you a huge amount of benefit over others in the end. That's just my take on it and I may be way off.

And finally, it's a flippin' joke that they expect you to pay full price for this game still. After the shambolic release and removal from Steam, how can they possibly justify the £39.99 price tag on Steam and on the Xbox? Sure, it's new to the Xbox, but it isn't new to Steam and after the amount of face that the studio is trying to save, you'd think that the least they'd do is lower the price. I've had more fun in Astroneer which is an early access title, have provided everything they promised, looks colourful and vibrant and cost me under £15. The fact that they expect us to pay £40 after two years just shows what they actually think of gamers in general. That we'll just eat up whatever they put in the palm of their hand because that's just how it goes. Sorry, but it's not for me at that price. If the game comes under £15, I may consider it, but the fact that they've had all the historical issues and they still think that they can justify full price for the game makes me feel negative toward them as a studio.
 
I don't understand why there are so many people defending this game and getting annoyed at people when they're making comments about not trusting the studio, nor the head of the studio after all the lies he spouted and the pile of rubbish that this was on release. People expected a certain product and got something entirely different rammed down their throat, and then had a whole month of absolutely nothing from the studio. Steam actually removed this game from their store, something which very rarely happens. The game was an utter shambolic mess and the hype that was generated around it, whether through Sony or whoever, was undoubtedly pushed further by Murray's constant lies on every platform that he was interviewed on (look up the videos if you need the evidence). The whole situation reeked of "we can give whatever we want to gamers and they'll pay up for it and who cares what happens afterward".

Now, two years on (which is a crazy amount of time to be honest) they're releasing an update and promising that it'll come close to what the game should have been on release, how can you blame people for not trusting any of this? All we've got now is another trailer (don't forget that it was trailer and pre-rendered footage that caused all these issues for them in the first place) showing very little substance and everyone is expected to get massively excited about this?

I understand that some here paid for the game and are happy to support it, but you can't blame the rest of us for feeling let down and annoyed at how we've been treated by the studio. I didn't pre-order the game because I felt that, although it was an exciting concept when I first heard about it, I felt that the project was a little too ambitious. After not preordering it and watching it spontaneously combust into a pile of ash after release I decided it definitely wasn't getting my money then because it simply wasn't worth it. I didn't want to invest in a broken game made by a studio that had effectively ignored it's fanbase. Since then, I've watched plenty of live streaming of it and also YouTube videos of actual play throughs and decided that it wasn't for me after even the newer Atlas Rises update because the gameplay looks shallow, samey, and a bit boring after a while. The space stuff doesn't look great, the way you fly into space and then everything just pops in doesn't work for me as it breaks the immersion. That doesn't look to have changed given that the same thing happens in the new trailer. It seems to me that, whilst it's an endless universe, your options within the game simply aren't. It isn't really a sandbox, there's only a finite amount of things that you can do and once you've got a few ships, it seems that there's little reason to go for newer ones because they don't give you a huge amount of benefit over others in the end. That's just my take on it and I may be way off.

And finally, it's a flippin' joke that they expect you to pay full price for this game still. After the shambolic release and removal from Steam, how can they possibly justify the £39.99 price tag on Steam and on the Xbox? Sure, it's new to the Xbox, but it isn't new to Steam and after the amount of face that the studio is trying to save, you'd think that the least they'd do is lower the price. I've had more fun in Astroneer which is an early access title, have provided everything they promised, looks colourful and vibrant and cost me under £15. The fact that they expect us to pay £40 after two years just shows what they actually think of gamers in general. That we'll just eat up whatever they put in the palm of their hand because that's just how it goes. Sorry, but it's not for me at that price. If the game comes under £15, I may consider it, but the fact that they've had all the historical issues and they still think that they can justify full price for the game makes me feel negative toward them as a studio.


I stopped after you said

"Lies he told"

"Pile of rubbish that this was on release"

The "Lies" were mostly unfounded, unreferencable and almost all features even eluded to are now in the game.

And being a pile of rubbish? since its release i've put more hours in to NMS than the witcher 3 and fallout 4 combined.. and i've completed both with their DLC's
 
The "Lies" were mostly unfounded, unreferencable and almost all features even eluded to are now in the game.

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I stopped after you said

"Lies he told"

"Pile of rubbish that this was on release"

The "Lies" were mostly unfounded, unreferencable and almost all features even eluded to are now in the game.

And being a pile of rubbish? since its release i've put more hours in to NMS than the witcher 3 and fallout 4 combined.. and i've completed both with their DLC's

How funny. You can literally find compilation videos of him lying during interviews on YouTube, but yeah, those lies were unfounded :rolleyes: Are you getting paid to defend Hello Games?

Your statement about all features now being in the game doesn't deal with the fact that they weren't on release, which was the entire issue in the first place. You can't use that as an argument to defend the release. It should never have been released as a full price game then. It could have gone early access and have been cheaper, or release delayed.

The thing that bugs me here is that I took the time to formulate a response in this thread and you totally dismissed everything I said by cherry picking two things to rage about because you can’t take the fact that it’s true and some of us feel annoyed by it. If it really was all a load of rubbish and people weren’t mislead, why did everything implode on release? Did the people that were voicing their issues just make it all up? Because there sure as heck were a lot of people speaking up about what a disappointment it was at launch. And it took a very long time for the game to even become close to what was promised. And now that a new update is out two years later people are saying that we should just forget everything that was and pick it up because now it’s what it should have been. And the price we pay is £40 if you purchase it on Steam and the Xbox One? Nope, sorry but that’s rubbish!

Do you agree that the game should still be full price two years later after all the issues on release? Whether you agree with them or not, you cannot brush aside the backlash and say it was unwarranted.
 
I bought the game for £12 (see above) and have been waiting for NEXT to be released before playing it so theoretically I should experience the game as it was meant to be for a decent price, looking forward to it.

The developers don't appear to have been entirely honest with the release but I think they deserve credit for persevering with it for this long. Fortunately I didn't buy into the hype but I can understand the frustration of those that paid full price and didn't get what they were led to believe they were buying.
 
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