No Stubble at work.

[Angilion]

The women at my place do wear hair nets if they have hair that touches shoulders if they work on fresh food counters. I do believe that's the policy for hair nets. Not had to wear one so can't be 100%.

That's quite relaxed. The policy where I work is that anyone in an unsealed food area wears a hair net and a hat unless their head is completely bald. I've no idea what they'd do with a beard as the issue hasn't arisen. Closely shaved hair (not cut short - shaved to a few mm) would be tolerated for brief visits when food isn't out, and that's it.

Those beard bibs are brilliant. I'd wear one for a laugh and I don't even have a beard.

 

[Evil^]

I work in another well known supermarket and have been told numerous times however its not in dress code to be clean shaven and behind certain counters people have full grown beards (if it is long you DO have to wear a net over it however).

I wouldn't have thought "grocery" replenishing or even on a fresh food department on the shop floor you would need to shave or be clean shaven I know I don't I have been highlighted about however I was told they don't discriminate on appearance when I had my interview.

I have been there when someone has been sent home for looking and I quote "like a tramp" to shave and come in looking decent however he was on a bakery counter...

 

[Twirlywoos]

Hello, can anyone tell me if this work policy is even allowed to be enforced?

Basically i have to be either bare faced or equipped with a Muslim face warmer at work. I got moaned at today for having stubble.

Am i right in saying this infringes my freedom of expression and that i can tell my managers to stuff it?

wow such ignorance. I know your username is PooBrains, but I really do think you have **** for brains.

 

[Manbatius]

shave everything, head, eyebrows the whole deal, then just go in going WHaaaaatt???

In all seriousness OP, when younger I used to get spots from shaving,but if i just trimmed the stubble I would not. I would also get on the manly shaving thread on here, you can probably reduce the problems you get from shaving. With a combo of better technique and or products can help.

Look for another job in the meantime if you really don't want to do this.

 

[hummingman]

I also work part time for said supermarket, in the petrol station. Earlier I got asked if I was 'growing a beard', I said no, why? "Oh its company policy"... so I went and got a copy of the Staff Handbook, which said hair must be "neat and tidy". Apparently I was deemed sufficiently obtrusive and directed to the (newly installed) store manager. I asked him if he could help me by informing me of the company policy in facial hair.

"Clean shaven" he said. I said I was confused as there was no mention of facial hair in the Staff Handbook except that hair must be neat and tidy. "Well in my opinion neat and tidy is shaven" he replied. I did not bother to say "well that's your opinion" as it wasn't worth the hassle. He continued to scan the relevant pages in the Staff Handbook to to avail. "Oh... it must be on an additional sheet which is included in here. You need to request this from personnel". "Right then", I say, "thank you very much". Until I am presented with written notification that I must be shaven I will keep my short, neat and tidy stubble. I already volunteer with two organisations which require me to shave, I won't be bullied into doing it by a bloody supermarket.


Oh and said manager has actually forced other people to shave there and then or face disciplinary. Really ****es me off.

 

[Housey]

I also work part time for said supermarket, in the petrol station. Earlier I got asked if I was 'growing a beard', I said no, why? "Oh its company policy"... so I went and got a copy of the Staff Handbook, which said hair must be "neat and tidy". Apparently I was deemed sufficiently obtrusive and directed to the (newly installed) store manager. I asked him if he could help me by informing me of the company policy in facial hair.

"Clean shaven" he said. I said I was confused as there was no mention of facial hair in the Staff Handbook except that hair must be neat and tidy. "Well in my opinion neat and tidy is shaven" he replied. I did not bother to say "well that's your opinion" as it wasn't worth the hassle. He continued to scan the relevant pages in the Staff Handbook to to avail. "Oh... it must be on an additional sheet which is included in here. You need to request this from personnel". "Right then", I say, "thank you very much". Until I am presented with written notification that I must be shaven I will keep my short, neat and tidy stubble. I already volunteer with two organisations which require me to shave, I won't be bullied into doing it by a bloody supermarket.


Oh and said manager has actually forced other people to shave there and then or face disciplinary. Really ****es me off.

You are 25 and working part time in a petrol station and doing 2 volunteering roles. You moan that the people that actually pay you are bullying you (which is a joke) and I bet at 30 you'll still be doing menial jobs and fighting the system and those nasty managers...

Some people need to realign their perspectives if you ask me. A shop is deeming they want you clean shaven, they are hardly asking you to have your teeth tattooed and your knob pierced with a big ring.

 

[Firestar_3x]

Imagine the shock to read that someone in a non skilled job is treated badly, they don't give a rats because you can be easily replaced, want more respect, get a better job.

 

[hummingman]

Edit: cba.

 

[Firestar_3x]

Better get used to sucking it up and kissing some bottom then.

The request might seem unreasonable, but the point is they can afford to be.

 

[Buchanan0204]

Not directed at humming man but I hate dealing with manky looking cashiers. I'd need to see a pic of this beard as people's perception seems to be skewed when it comes to what is and what isn't "smart looking"

Pics?

If its really short as in, less than 1mm. I don't see the issue.

 

[Caseh]

My stubble is always really light blonde, but as it gets longer, it gets darker - So by the time anyone can actually see it, it's a beard. It's awesome for situations like this.

I don't actually have anything else to add, other than I hated the time I spent working at Morrisons. Horrible to work for.

 

[Angilion]

Not directed at humming man but I hate dealing with manky looking cashiers. I'd need to see a pic of this beard as people's perception seems to be skewed when it comes to what is and what isn't "smart looking"

Pics?

If its really short as in, less than 1mm. I don't see the issue.

Why are you so extremist about the appearance of cashiers? It seems silly to me - you're interacting with them in the very limited and very specific context of them taking your payment for something and their appearance is utterly irrelevant to that.

I wouldn't care if they were naked with half a kilo of piercings, plaited body hair and their arse painted blue. It has no relevance at all to them being a cashier for my purchases.

I can understand some degree of surprise, even some degree of disdain for their choices about their appearance, but hatred? That's far too extreme to be rational.

 

[Fubsy]

Beardism...

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[Angilion]

Imagine the shock to read that someone in a non skilled job is treated badly, they don't give a rats because you can be easily replaced, want more respect, get a better job.

For all the dramatic changes since medieval times, there are still similarities. We are, roughly speaking, contempory peasants. Local managers are reeves. Regional managers are stewards. The company itself is the lord of the manor, with larger companies being akin to more powerful noblemen who are lords of multiple manors. The match isn't precise, but the similiarities exist and there's even less real connection to the peasants than there was in medieval times. A medieval manor lord, even a duke with a lot of land and many manors, would at least see their peasants. A company is less personal and the people at policy-making level don't see their peasants. All they see is a cost. So they have even less reason to give a rat's arse about their peasants than a medieval duke because they're even more distant from their peasants.

"get a better job" is a lot easier said than done. There are many more at the bottom than at the top, or even partway up, and mobility is limited.

Personally, I'll stay a peasant. It is how it is, there's a degree of stability and the income is enough to live on for my circumstances (e.g. I don't have a car and I can easily walk to work, so I have no commuting costs). The next level or two further up is particularly unappealing in the company I work for. Assistant managers in particular carry a lot more work and responsibility for very little more money - their effective hourly pay can be lower than that of us peasants because they're salaried. Besides, I don't have the abilities required to manage people. To get a better job, I'd have to go all Monty Python and look for something completely different

 

[estebanrey]

Beardism...

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I think things like this are the renascence of people who would otherwise wouldn't employee gays, blacks or women. You can't easily discriminate against people who look 'different' to you anymore so silly things like having a problem with people with beards is the only way some people can continue to feel better than others.

 

[Redz]

they are hardly asking you to have your teeth tattooed and your knob pierced with a big ring.

I think I'd require a little bit more than minimum wage if my employer was going to enforce that regulation.

 

[Swarfega]

I think stubble is fine but it has to be a certain length. Stubble that is short looks like you missed a shave. Personally I prefer clean shaven these days. For that I blame The Manly Shaving Thread.

 

[Andy__C]

I started working at a really old skool firm of chartered accountants after Uni doing my accountancy quals.

I got sent from the office 4 times in total to 'sort myself out' for the following:

Twice for not being clean shaven that morning (1 days growth).

Once as my shoes weren't polished enough.

Once because my hair was long enough at the back to be touching my collar.


Their place their rules basically.

 

[Buchanan0204]

Why are you so extremist about the appearance of cashiers? It seems silly to me - you're interacting with them in the very limited and very specific context of them taking your payment for something and their appearance is utterly irrelevant to that.

I wouldn't care if they were naked with half a kilo of piercings, plaited body hair and their arse painted blue. It has no relevance at all to them being a cashier for my purchases.

I can understand some degree of surprise, even some degree of disdain for their choices about their appearance, but hatred? That's far too extreme to be rational.

I said I hated dealing with them, not that I hate them. That wasn't really difficult to understand.

I don't like touching, exchanging money or interacting with scruffy, ugly, smelly people with poor personal hygiene. This is usually the case with people who have scruffy homeless beards. On the other hand if they're youngish and trying to grow a scraggly trouser beard, it's just unsightly.

Obviously the majority agree as its policy. People interacting with the public should have good hygiene and look smart. The same reason you don't see waiters and waitresses in restaurants with facial piercings and beards. It puts people off!

Again. I'm sure they're nice people on the inside, I just don't like ugly people with scruffy beards. Shoot me!

 

[estebanrey]

People interacting with the public should have good hygiene and look smart. The same reason you don't see waiters and waitresses in restaurants with facial piercings and beards. It puts people off!

So people with beards or piercing don't (or can't) have good hygiene?

I'm with David Mitchell, if you're doing a low-paid job why pretend to have to like it and make an effort?

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