No Time To Die (now contains spoilers!) Ha

FlamBango said:
was Craig a reboot? There were so many references to items and past memories. Hell, even in this film OHMSS references were rammed down our throats constantly.
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Did you get the sense this Bond had been married before and lost a wife? That he dealt with Blofeld and Spectre before the penultimate movie?

Casino Royale establishes that he only made his first kills in the opening black and white sequence to become a '00' agent.

And QOS picks up almost immediately after casino Royale, with bond having put Mr White in the back of the Aston Martin DBS
 
Having watched Casino Royale again last week I have a bit more understanding of him not being totally over Vesper for so long, despite the romance being so brief and short. It's clearly shown he's cold and emotionless, treating women as 'disposable playthings' and his romantic feelings for Vesper are likely the first time be really felt any connection to anyone through his life. As such despite the short time together that has left a strong imprint on him and he can't easily shake it and the feeling he'll be betrayed if he falls in love again.

I, like many others watching No Time To Die was thinking god man, it's been years, get over it :D
 
I spent a while the other day talking about what happens next with my Son as far as the role James Bond is concerned. Its not like Doctor Who (its good for a start ;) ) in that the role is written to change, each time somebody new comes along playing James Bond although Craig did feel like a (well needed imho) reboot but now JB has been killed I'm not really sure what happens next.
We could just have another film with JB in it as he's just a character in a story and why can't you make more but then most when most anthers kill a character they are dead and that's it.

Hope they don't do prequels and wotnot! Maybe they will carry on the 007 role with a new named spy, possibly picking another name from the original books.
 
Got a chance to see this; it was how would i say this not great but could be better if they added some common sense to the plot.
 
I really enjoyed this. Thought the first half was better than the second though. Music and location was 10/10 as it the course with a bond film.
Negatives were the bad guy and the ending. I'm not saying rami malek was the wrong choice, I think the writing was just bad for him.
 
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Enjoyed it immensely, the best of the Daniel Craig films and third in my top 3, just below my number 1 License to Kill, and 2 Live and let die.
 
Dissapointed in this movie, I was bored and wondering if it would ever end. Gob smacked that they killed off James Bond, I was looking forward to find out who the next James Bond would be.
 
wnb said:
Dissapointed in this movie, I was bored and wondering if it would ever end. Gob smacked that they killed off James Bond, I was looking forward to find out who the next James Bond would be.
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Nah there'll be another Bond. I just see it as a code name to go with the 007 number.
Not seen it yet, but have pre ordered the dvd from Amazon, released on 20th Dec.
 
Uther said:
Nah there'll be another Bond. I just see it as a code name to go with the 007 number.
Not seen it yet, but have pre ordered the dvd from Amazon, released on 20th Dec.
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Exactly how I've always seen it, his name is James Bond and his ID is 007. However before MI6 he's someone else, that's how I've always thought of it anyway.
 
I think the word 'disappointed' sum this movie up really well. Uninteresting side characters, no-one really gets any decent screen time apart from Bond and I think there could have been some real good potential with the new 007, the eye guy, CIA girl, flipping Rami! (criminally underused)

The return of Blofeld in the Craig era has to be the biggest misstep the studio has done by far - They basically made him a joke and utterly useless.

I honestly don't really care who they get as the next Bond, but ones thing for sure is that they need better writers.
 
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peige said:
I spent a while the other day talking about what happens next with my Son as far as the role James Bond is concerned. Its not like Doctor Who (its good for a start ;) ) in that the role is written to change, each time somebody new comes along playing James Bond although Craig did feel like a (well needed imho) reboot but now JB has been killed I'm not really sure what happens next.
We could just have another film with JB in it as he's just a character in a story and why can't you make more but then most when most anthers kill a character they are dead and that's it.

Hope they don't do prequels and wotnot! Maybe they will carry on the 007 role with a new named spy, possibly picking another name from the original books.
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My first thought was they are setting it up for his daughter to carry on the family name but I bet that would have bond fans in outrage :cry:

I thought the film was pretty average really. I didn't hate it but I don't think it flowed as well as other bond films, the music seemed a bit off as well.
I'd give it 6/10 but when it ended it was all a bit... "meh".
 
As a Bond movie it is quite lacking as an action movie it was for the most part fairly decent but it didn't really go anywhere and the ending I dunno just felt unnecessary. I mostly enjoyed it to be fair but it left me missing a proper Bond movie.

TheOracle said:
I'm not saying rami malek was the wrong choice, I think the writing was just bad for him.
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Yeah never really given much room or time to truly develop despite the length of the movie.
 
The fact that they killed off SPECTRE and then Bond himself just feels like a studio making a film they didn't really know what to do with anymore and a franchicse they want to totally reinvent. It had some great set pieces looked stunning in places some of the action was great, but then there were just horribly jarring and childish moments that were aweful. It thew far far to many elements in there that just sprang out of nowhere.


I would like the whole franchise to split now if need be. One would remake all of the Fleming books set in the Cold War and be completely faithful to the original idea, it would be grown up, charming, measured and involve old school spying. The other can be set in the present and continue with computer geek Q and all the silliness, like the Marvel franchise but with a cast of multicultural 00 agents.

This middle ground after Casino Royale just doesn't seem to work.
 
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I was enormously underwhelmed by the villians.

Also expected a far darker and sadistic ending than saying goodbye over the phone.

Like so:

So we have the disposable bad guy get into a gunfight with bond and predictably die but obviously wound bond badly. Before the bad guy dies he grabs at the stuffed rabbit and talks some trash.

Bond opens the blast doors and finds a boat to struggle away from the island to Madeline and child.

Big emotional reuniting. Bond still bleeding away like he's packing 50 litres of ribena.

Child comes to get the rabbit off him. The missiles start flying over.

He holds Madeline.

There's a suspicious silence and the crunch of glass.

Half the broken vial falls out of the rabbit.

Bond sees them die before him and screams holding them as the missiles obliterate the island in the background.

Film ends with some kind of artistic display of them dead and him questionably dead and not moving.

Start playing that all the time in the world music but no vocals and extra violins.

It could have emotionally traumatised millions of people and they wasted the opportunity!
 
Hotwired said:
I was enormously underwhelmed by the villians.

Also expected a far darker and sadistic ending than saying goodbye over the phone.

Like so:

So we have the disposable bad guy get into a gunfight with bond and predictably die but obviously wound bond badly. Before the bad guy dies he grabs at the stuffed rabbit and talks some trash.

Bond opens the blast doors and finds a boat to struggle away from the island to Madeline and child.

Big emotional reuniting. Bond still bleeding away like he's packing 50 litres of ribena.

Child comes to get the rabbit off him. The missiles start flying over.

He holds Madeline.

There's a suspicious silence and the crunch of glass.

Half the broken vial falls out of the rabbit.

Bond sees them die before him and screams holding them as the missiles obliterate the island in the background.

Film ends with some kind of artistic display of them dead and him questionably dead and not moving.

Start playing that all the time in the world music but no vocals and extra violins.

It could have emotionally traumatised millions of people and they wasted the opportunity!
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haha true
 
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