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I think he means Johnny Wishbone...
No Time To Die (now contains spoilers!) Ha
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I think he means Johnny Wishbone...
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Cool ok
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And this is why I hate autocorrect. I literally typed in John Wick letter by letter and it still autocorrected it into nonsense.
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I'm sorry I thought it was utter drivel
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Casino Royale was the best
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Finally watched it, thought it was great.
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Watched this last night with the family, the old 43" Samsung with annoying post processing and cack sound across the room didn't bode well for my attention, i knew it would be a mistake to watch at this time. I've also not seen Spectre which is another mistake, but that shouldn't be the case, it's a Bond film so should hold it's own.
I'm going to rewatch this at some point so i can try and review it more fairly, as they're a lot of positive reviews.
However glaring issues in the film i think. Opening title/music. Cutting of some scenes lost our attention to the film, like when the boat plane just appears somewhere else with no take off or landing. Poor gadgets. Bond jokes weren't executed well. Action was not inventive enough, simple knock beefy landrovers over several times.
Too much reliance on previous film to understand what was going on, or maybe it was because it was too long, or maybe because of my viewing experience (TV/family etc), however Bond films used to be straight forward.
I can't fault "them" for trying to change it up after decades of the same formula, see above point, the attempt to go emotional caused an issue in viewing for me. Was a messy implementation.
I feel this had a decent enough story, good actors, adequate music (allbeit could have been better), but missed the mark for me on this viewing.
That helped me understand the film funnily enough, those are often quite funny.
Easy enough for me.
Bond has always been easy to watch, no real attention required to get the gist of it, i had little idea what was going on. (i admittedly missed the first 10mins). This wasn't the case here.
Bond has near always had a solid opening title/ music track, this didn't seem it.
Bond has mostly been devoid of deep emotion, or completely emotional stories.
Bond i don't recall got any female attention in this, however the joke surrounding it was good, so i'll give it a pass.
Corny jokes devoid it felt like, and ironically the above Bond style joke was the best one.
The evil bad guy base wasn't very evil bad guy base.
The bond formula was there, but wasn't as a formula, it was sprinkled on.
Do i think Casino Royale was a Bond film?
Yes.
It didn't have the full Bond formula from what i do remember in it, it went for a massive change of style as a gamble, got executed well, and therefore was a good one off (or severely infrequent) film to add to the long list of Bond films. No Time to Die decided to not adhere to any rules and just do what it felt like.
I forgot to say.
I'd like Sean Bean to jump in as 007 next. Just smash the classic formula, get some oldies in for M and Q, some quirky Moneypenny to fire off some jokes, outrageous action scenes, and roll with some OTT simply story like modern world is fully reliant on the internet and bad guy is slowly making everyone's toaster break, Bond drives car in neutral down some massive hill and off a jump as bad guy broke its computer and Bond needs to escape the exploding back up server base for the world, bad guy takes over the international space station, Bond crashes it into the ocean, Bond goes to secret lab and kills the bionic internet man and 100 normal disposable guards, pew pew pew, the end.
No need for full stops as it's an action packed sentence/film.
I'm going to rewatch this at some point so i can try and review it more fairly, as they're a lot of positive reviews.
However glaring issues in the film i think. Opening title/music. Cutting of some scenes lost our attention to the film, like when the boat plane just appears somewhere else with no take off or landing. Poor gadgets. Bond jokes weren't executed well. Action was not inventive enough, simple knock beefy landrovers over several times.
Too much reliance on previous film to understand what was going on, or maybe it was because it was too long, or maybe because of my viewing experience (TV/family etc), however Bond films used to be straight forward.
I can't fault "them" for trying to change it up after decades of the same formula, see above point, the attempt to go emotional caused an issue in viewing for me. Was a messy implementation.
I feel this had a decent enough story, good actors, adequate music (allbeit could have been better), but missed the mark for me on this viewing.
Killing bond, why? I don't mean, why what you gonna do now? But i mean, it's Bond and Bond doesn't die.
I had some issues with this already but this video has sent me over the edge
That helped me understand the film funnily enough, those are often quite funny.
Let's kill Felix off. No reason for it, just we'll do it for wow factor and middle finger the following films.
I feel this was needed given the severity of killing off Bond.
Easy enough for me.
Bond has always been easy to watch, no real attention required to get the gist of it, i had little idea what was going on. (i admittedly missed the first 10mins). This wasn't the case here.
Bond has near always had a solid opening title/ music track, this didn't seem it.
Bond has mostly been devoid of deep emotion, or completely emotional stories.
Bond i don't recall got any female attention in this, however the joke surrounding it was good, so i'll give it a pass.
Corny jokes devoid it felt like, and ironically the above Bond style joke was the best one.
The evil bad guy base wasn't very evil bad guy base.
The bond formula was there, but wasn't as a formula, it was sprinkled on.
Bond effin died. Bond is 007, nobody else is, we had another 00 before, why couldn't we just have another 00 again. Felix died for the sake of it.
Do i think Casino Royale was a Bond film?
Yes.
It didn't have the full Bond formula from what i do remember in it, it went for a massive change of style as a gamble, got executed well, and therefore was a good one off (or severely infrequent) film to add to the long list of Bond films. No Time to Die decided to not adhere to any rules and just do what it felt like.
I forgot to say.
I'd like Sean Bean to jump in as 007 next. Just smash the classic formula, get some oldies in for M and Q, some quirky Moneypenny to fire off some jokes, outrageous action scenes, and roll with some OTT simply story like modern world is fully reliant on the internet and bad guy is slowly making everyone's toaster break, Bond drives car in neutral down some massive hill and off a jump as bad guy broke its computer and Bond needs to escape the exploding back up server base for the world, bad guy takes over the international space station, Bond crashes it into the ocean, Bond goes to secret lab and kills the bionic internet man and 100 normal disposable guards, pew pew pew, the end.
No need for full stops as it's an action packed sentence/film.
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Personally it was dreadful with one exception, the intro, for me, the film has taken Bond back to Brosnan days of Invisible cars...
Yes, I get the nod to Bond films of yore, evil base and save the world and make the twist of not being another OHMSS.
Spectre, should have been Craig's last, sadly it wasn't. It was like Rambo with a kill counter off the scale, at least Connery, Moore would have some backup. I fear Craig will be remembered like Brosnan, the actors who started off well...
Overall, no idea what they will do from here.
Personally it was dreadful with one exception, the intro, for me, the film has taken Bond back to Brosnan days of Invisible cars...
Yes, I get the nod to Bond films of yore, evil base and save the world and make the twist of not being another OHMSS.
Spectre, should have been Craig's last, sadly it wasn't. It was like Rambo with a kill counter off the scale, at least Connery, Moore would have some backup. I fear Craig will be remembered like Brosnan, the actors who started off well...
Overall, no idea what they will do from here.
Don
Watched the Blu-ray of this over Christmas. Whilst it looked fantastic in places, it felt way too slow paced, not enough action, and the villains had no real presence.
5/10 for me.
Out of the Craig era, Casino Royale and Skyfall are the only ones I really enjoyed.
5/10 for me.
Out of the Craig era, Casino Royale and Skyfall are the only ones I really enjoyed.
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Just saw this. Was just about a 6/10 for me. Watchable if you don't concentrate too much. It was a bit of fluff. Glad I didn't watch it on a 4k screen as
The 007 character was poor. In fact no-one did anything much other than Craig. Ana De Armas was good but there was nothing to her character. There should have been more screen time and a better back story.
IMO bond should be much darker. I though that was direction it was going with the opening scenes in Casino Royale, but as the end of the DG era it's almost got to the point of the Rodger Moore comedy bond. OK not quite that far, but still.
Bond movies have never been great stories but perhaps that is an avenue they need to consider. Really improve the writing. Get rid of teams of writers and have only one or two people writing the story and the screenplay.
Reminds me of what a crap show Mission Impossible has become too. The first one was well written and was good movie. Gun fights and stunts were limited. Now there's not story and it's all gun fights and stunts and silly parlour tricks.
The 007 character was poor. In fact no-one did anything much other than Craig. Ana De Armas was good but there was nothing to her character. There should have been more screen time and a better back story.
IMO bond should be much darker. I though that was direction it was going with the opening scenes in Casino Royale, but as the end of the DG era it's almost got to the point of the Rodger Moore comedy bond. OK not quite that far, but still.
Bond movies have never been great stories but perhaps that is an avenue they need to consider. Really improve the writing. Get rid of teams of writers and have only one or two people writing the story and the screenplay.
Reminds me of what a crap show Mission Impossible has become too. The first one was well written and was good movie. Gun fights and stunts were limited. Now there's not story and it's all gun fights and stunts and silly parlour tricks.
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Are there any good films anymore?!?
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So many issues with this movie. Mainly I will go with convoluted plot, lack of clear motive for the bad guy (who doesn't age in 30 years...), zero chemistry with the love interest and Bond giving up at the end.
The fact they actually killed him is completely against the spirit of Bond and I'm not sure how they can have any continuity with the current cast if they introduce a new Bond (as opposed to 007). Maybe they'll pull some nonsense and magic up a long lost son from one of his dozens of relationships, who also happens to be called James.
The fact they actually killed him is completely against the spirit of Bond and I'm not sure how they can have any continuity with the current cast if they introduce a new Bond (as opposed to 007). Maybe they'll pull some nonsense and magic up a long lost son from one of his dozens of relationships, who also happens to be called James.
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DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!!!
Watched this the other night. Too long. Some great scenes some meh. One of the weakest supervillain performance ever. I think the rest of the cast were good just the script was a bit unfocused.
I think Craig is a great actor and was a great bond. I like his era.
I think Craig is a great actor and was a great bond. I like his era.
I like the Moore era, though it is of it's time and not aged well at all.
Every franchise has gone darker and gritter and more and more violent. Do we really need James Wick Bond in the RAID 3. I think we are becoming desensitized to it all.
article on some of movies cgi effects (modifying landscape, trees, weather, light)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015qlk/click-can-computer-games-help-reduce-pain 20:00
still think they rather desecrated OHMS ending by re-using the magnificent louis armstrong song , NTTD ending wasn't as good, and ohms reminds you of this - they had run out of ideas on an original ending.
The dramatic/improbable special effects like the ending don't seem to be value for money, they must cost a disproptionate part of budget and become laborious because they have to last for ages, original Bond there was a spoof aspect, they didn't take themselves too seriously, but most of Craig was farcical, wrong side of the line.
If the female 007 continues it will be interesting to see how they handle romantic/lothario aspect of the original character.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0015qlk/click-can-computer-games-help-reduce-pain 20:00
still think they rather desecrated OHMS ending by re-using the magnificent louis armstrong song , NTTD ending wasn't as good, and ohms reminds you of this - they had run out of ideas on an original ending.
The dramatic/improbable special effects like the ending don't seem to be value for money, they must cost a disproptionate part of budget and become laborious because they have to last for ages, original Bond there was a spoof aspect, they didn't take themselves too seriously, but most of Craig was farcical, wrong side of the line.
If the female 007 continues it will be interesting to see how they handle romantic/lothario aspect of the original character.
Saw this for the first time tonight.
Genuinely one of the worse films I've seen in my lifetime. Equal to Prometheus in the dire stakes.
There was almost nothing good about any of it.
The action is 100% video game, now. Bond even has regenerating health, it seems.
The script was just the most mindless, boring, inexplicable, contrived, disjointed, incomprehensible, garbage.
The overall experience was horrid and I will not be watching this a second time, for any reason. Much like I won't be seeking out the Noro virus for another try. Once was sufficient.
I'm having serious doubts about that.
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Holy thread revival Batman!
Only Casino Royale was really good. Spectre was decent, to be fair even QoS has aged better than No Time To Die, which I'm still angry about. The dialogue in that film was really weird, like something out of uncanny valley.