Nokia N900

e36Adz said:
Same. I will be able to buy it end of November so will keep an eye on what ppl have to say about it first.
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Might buy it when the copy of my customer service notes from vodafone (saying they advise I can cancel my contract with vodafone/phones4u for my n97) comes through... Damn Royal Mial strike.

Doesn't look like much else is coming soon - both the xperia rachael x10, and htc dragon/passion/zoom2 seem to be too far off, and the Droid looks to have a crap keyboard and is motorola with funny UI crappiness, so may well go for a 12month t-mobile contract for the n900, since tmobile coverage seems okay where I live...

Just wish nokia were ahead of the curve... so many snapdragon, bigger screened, capacitive phones coming out soonish;- I wish nokia make a market leading hardware phone - bigger capacitive screen(resistive may be more accurate, but on a 3.5" screen 800x480 will be fiddly), better battery (n97: 1500mAh, n900: 1320), faster processor, better GPU (at least powerVR sgx 535 instead of 530) and more RAM rather than just catching up with what's gone before.

I'm waiting for final reviews before I trust Nokia.
 
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Monkey Puzzle said:
bigger capacitive screen(resistive may be more accurate, but on a 3.5" screen 800x480 will be fiddly)
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Depends how blind you are, n810 is absolutely fine, only flaw is **** web design with crap tons of java script, and on mouse hover features. Seeing as you don't get a mouse.

better battery (n97: 1500mAh, n900: 1320)
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Yes that be nice, but depends on the battery consumption as maximum charge isn't everything.

faster processor, better GPU (at least powerVR sgx 535 instead of 530)
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600mhz, should be generally enough for most applications you could think of, at home I use a 1.2ghz single core via chip. Outside crappy java script/flash infested websites ir works wonders. Oh yeah, n900 apparently comes with a special flash something or other forgot what, so maybe il start using with flash infested sites.

and more RAM
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It has doubled the ram over n810, x6 the swap file.

Like I been saying the hardware I think is near perfect, my main concern is the battery life, but if they can do 1 day full use as promised, I will be happy. N810 only gets about 6-7 hours if you are not a tard with it always on time, 14 days standby.
 
rsatd said:
600mhz, should be generally enough for most applications you could think of, at home I use a 1.2ghz single core via chip. Outside crappy java script/flash infested websites ir works wonders. Oh yeah, n900 apparently comes with a special flash something or other forgot what, so maybe il start using with flash infested sites.
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Exactly, plus Maemo doesnt need such a quick CPU - Windows Mobile does due to its inefficient coding. As long as it runs N64 games Im rather happy (its coming soon..)
 
Recent 'review'
HTC HD2 vs Droid vs N900
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/2...versus-htc-hd2-versus-motorola-droid-five.htm

Conclusion: "But now the final whistle has been blown and it is time to announce the winner of the slugfest. That's right, folks! The fight has been long, bloody and closely contested but only one phone has emerged as the winner, albeit bruised, and that is - the Nokia N900.

That's right folks!! The N900 is the king of the square ring as it packs killer punches such as the revolutionary Maemo platform, a camera with excellent optics and features, 32GB internal storage, and choices of a full Qwerty tactile keyboard as well as a virtual onscreen keyboard.

Of course, those who prefer capacitive touchscreen will think the N900's resistive touchscreen is a dumb idea. But believe me folks. Unlike the resistive touchscreen in other smartphones, the N900's touchscreen can actually pass off as capacitive touchscreen except for the fact that for managing some applications you would need the stylus and in typing the keyboard, you would need to exert more pressure on the screen than is necessary in a capacitive one.

Actually, capacitive screens are only advantageous when all you have deft fingers. But if you're a pro with a stylus, nothing beats resistive screens.

As for those who were betting on the HD2 as emerging the winner – well - all I can say is that I'm sorry though the HD2 did come close to being declared the winner. In fact, the HD2 could have well been the winner (thanks to its 1GHz Snapdragon processor, a whopping 4.3-inch touchscreen display and HTC Sense UI), had it not been let down (its biggest letdown, in fact) by the Windows Mobile 6.5 browser which is a far cry from the Maemo and the Android platform. Also, the HD2 has only onscreen keyboard for typing (What? No choices for buyers in the 21st century?) and those who are not used to typing onscreen will find it pretty challenging at times.

As for the Droid, well, it definitely has several rich features but none extraordinary (except perhaps for running on the Android platform).

Well, that's it, folks. The show's over now. You asked for it and we have thrown the three best smartphones (aka. heavy-duty multimedia phones) into the ring. All the three smartphones have enough rich features to boast of and can easily take the fight to the iPhone. But whether they can defeat the iPhone - well - that's another story which might be told some other day."
 
xiphrex said:
Anyone know if the video playing capabilities of this are equal to or better than winmo with coreplayer?
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Well it plays DivX, Xvid, mpeg, avi, out of the box I believe, vlc now works on it and mplayer is being ported over from the N800, so is certainly equal to wimo/coreplayer.
 
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Nokia are planning selling them sim-free directly, however if you type "n900 deal" in google, you can find websites advertising plans mostly from vodaphone and tmobile I think the second one was, but they are a little bit unreasonable in cost right now, as while they do advertise a ~£20 a month contract, when you click the link you are told it does not exist from the provider.

So my guess they are trying to sucker the impatient in at first.

Christo said:
Recent 'review'
HTC HD2 vs Droid vs N900
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Prefer the stylus mehod, you tend to make less mistakes, and the on screen keyboard can have smaller keys and thus take up less space. After playing with one of the HTC phones a friend had, the finger driven on screen keyboard takes up just too much space.
 
rsatd said:
Prefer the stylus mehod, you tend to make less mistakes, and the on screen keyboard can have smaller keys and thus take up less space. After playing with one of the HTC phones a friend had, the finger driven on screen keyboard takes up just too much space.
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I have both and the stylus is indeed a little better for typing messages (not much and not all the time) but so much hassle for everything else.
 
typing this on an n900. not bad- bit laggy at times with 6 apps open though... wonder whether it'd be the same if it had morwe memory. keyboard's pretty good. better go - store people seem slightly annoyed!
 
Monster said:
Which store did you get to try it out? I think i need to try this before I buy it.
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You can try it out in the Nokia flagship store, London. I tried it, was quite surprised how good the keyboard/general size is. The touchscreen was very sensitive/responsive too - night and day to the 5800/N97.
 
Christo said:
You can try it out in the Nokia flagship store, London. I tried it, was quite surprised how good the keyboard/general size is. The touchscreen was very sensitive/responsive too - night and day to the 5800/N97.
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Keyboard is pretty nice - bigger keys than the n97, harder plastic and more travel.

The screen is nice and responsive - seems to have a bit less flex than the n97's and responds much better. The lack of multitouch makes zooming a bit slower and makes the screen jiggle for a short while until it figures out what you're doing. Not as responsive as the iphone but it's much closer to it than it is to the n97/5800. Most responsive resistive screen I've tried by a way. Double-tap for text box to fill the screen is nice, and really something the idiots at nokia should have implemented before.

UI seemed good; not as slick as the iphone/hero, but miles better than the hideousness of the n97. Tapping outside the option box to cancel is nice. User-friendly but definitely lacking some polish. I played with it for around 20-30 minutes and there were a few funny moments when it didn't respond quite as it should, got a bit confused and froze for a few seconds or so.

My concern was the occasional lagginess when accessing the multitasking window screen - I hope it's just early software bugs and not because they're using mass-memory as RAM. Should have just given it 512mb RAM if they relly wanted it to be a multi-tasking smartphone.

Video playback was good - though the max resolution videos on the phone instore were DVD resolution trailers as far as I could tell. No stuttering when shifting from one bit to another on the progress bar that I could see. Controls were basic on the video player, though 3rd party video players will be downloadable anyhow.

Overall it was nice to use, felt pretty user-friendly, flexible and solidly made. I did have lingering doubts as to whether it's quite powerful enough to do all the things Nokia claim at the same time with the snappiness you'd like. Miles better than the n97, but not as zippy as the iphone, though in fairness it's multi-tasking and running a higher res screen.

Guy instore reckoned out in next 2 weeks for £449 and exclusively SIM free from Nokia until January. Though as with most phone salesmen that could all be utter BS.
 
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Christo said:
Recent 'review'
HTC HD2 vs Droid vs N900
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/2...versus-htc-hd2-versus-motorola-droid-five.htm

Conclusion: "But now the final whistle has been blown and it is time to announce the winner of the slugfest. That's right, folks! The fight has been long, bloody and closely contested but only one phone has emerged as the winner, albeit bruised, and that is - the Nokia N900.

That's right folks!! The N900 is the king of the square ring as it packs killer punches such as the revolutionary Maemo platform, a camera with excellent optics and features, 32GB internal storage, and choices of a full Qwerty tactile keyboard as well as a virtual onscreen keyboard.

Of course, those who prefer capacitive touchscreen will think the N900's resistive touchscreen is a dumb idea. But believe me folks. Unlike the resistive touchscreen in other smartphones, the N900's touchscreen can actually pass off as capacitive touchscreen except for the fact that for managing some applications you would need the stylus and in typing the keyboard, you would need to exert more pressure on the screen than is necessary in a capacitive one.

Actually, capacitive screens are only advantageous when all you have deft fingers. But if you're a pro with a stylus, nothing beats resistive screens.

As for those who were betting on the HD2 as emerging the winner – well - all I can say is that I'm sorry though the HD2 did come close to being declared the winner. In fact, the HD2 could have well been the winner (thanks to its 1GHz Snapdragon processor, a whopping 4.3-inch touchscreen display and HTC Sense UI), had it not been let down (its biggest letdown, in fact) by the Windows Mobile 6.5 browser which is a far cry from the Maemo and the Android platform. Also, the HD2 has only onscreen keyboard for typing (What? No choices for buyers in the 21st century?) and those who are not used to typing onscreen will find it pretty challenging at times.

As for the Droid, well, it definitely has several rich features but none extraordinary (except perhaps for running on the Android platform).

Well, that's it, folks. The show's over now. You asked for it and we have thrown the three best smartphones (aka. heavy-duty multimedia phones) into the ring. All the three smartphones have enough rich features to boast of and can easily take the fight to the iPhone. But whether they can defeat the iPhone - well - that's another story which might be told some other day."
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That was probably one of the worst articles I have ever read in terms of doing a genuine comparison of phones. No detail, no depth, it seemed like the guy read a spec sheet and then played with the phones for 15 mins. Awful journalism.
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
Might buy it when the copy of my customer service notes from vodafone (saying they advise I can cancel my contract with vodafone/phones4u for my n97) comes through... Damn Royal Mial strike.

Doesn't look like much else is coming soon - both the xperia rachael x10, and htc dragon/passion/zoom2 seem to be too far off, and the Droid looks to have a crap keyboard and is motorola with funny UI crappiness, so may well go for a 12month t-mobile contract for the n900, since tmobile coverage seems okay where I live...

Just wish nokia were ahead of the curve... so many snapdragon, bigger screened, capacitive phones coming out soonish;- I wish nokia make a market leading hardware phone - bigger capacitive screen(resistive may be more accurate, but on a 3.5" screen 800x480 will be fiddly), better battery (n97: 1500mAh, n900: 1320), faster processor, better GPU (at least powerVR sgx 535 instead of 530) and more RAM rather than just catching up with what's gone before.

I'm waiting for final reviews before I trust Nokia.
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How did you manage to get Vodaphone to cancel your N97 contract?
 
Richdog said:
That was probably one of the worst articles I have ever read in terms of doing a genuine comparison of phones. No detail, no depth, it seemed like the guy read a spec sheet and then played with the phones for 15 mins. Awful journalism.
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You did read the other pages of the review didnt you..;) Its pretty indepth to me. Not entirely sure I trust your judgement after your earlier post saying the majority of reviews of the N900 were poor! - which quite frankly wasnt true.

Id agree with him - Windows Mobile/camera is the HD2's achillies heel, the keyboard/camera of Droid are dire - the N900 is the best of the latest gen imo (of course the number of apps is its biggest flaw, resistive capacitive is completely moot, unless you've actually tried the device).
 
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