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Not much excitement for RDNA3, compared to the RTX 4000 series

g67575

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Considering what an improvement RDNA and RDNA2 were, there doesn't seem to be much excitement for RDNA3. AMD's GPU roadmap shows a release date of Q4 2022, here:

Last year, AMD's CEO said this about RDNA3 progress:
"We remain on-track to launch next-generation products in 2022, including our ... RDNA 3 GPUs".

According to AMD, RDNA 3 will feature 5nm process tech, a 50% performance per watt improvement, and 'rearchitected compute unit'(s):

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The weakest part of RDNA2 was RT performance (relative to the RTX 3000 series), so hopefully AMD will tackle that too. Meanwhile Nvidia has still confirmed nothing about the RTX 4000 series, and apparently plan more RTX 3000 models with GDDR6X soon :confused:
 
Not been as many "leaks" on performance so hard to get excited atm. That and the lack of ray tracing focus/mention is concerning especially given how many games nowadays are including it, only thing we have had is "rdna 3 will be more advanced than rdna 2 for rt", not exactly filling me with confidence but hope to be wrong.
 
Yup, but the successors of the 6800XT and 6900 XT are likely to be at least 50% faster - depending on how much power consumption is increased (this is what happened from RDNA1>RDNA2 at 4K resolution). A RX 6900 XT costs ~£750 right now, if they can offer their next gen cards at a similar price, with 50% improved 3D graphics and Ray tracing, these could be seriously competitive cards (both ahead of the RTX 3090 TI) , Nvidia's prices are likely to remain high though, due to their market share and performance lead.

If the RT performance isn't quite enough (60 FPS), many games with RT now have upscaling options... The main 'failure' of RDNA2, was the lack of production of GPU dies and VRAM (prices still not quite at MSRP for the top cards, and no reference models got sold to the UK), I think the situation is likely to be much improved with RDNA3. Meanwhile, the RTX 3080 10GB is getting very close to MSRP price (£650).

Demand is lower too for GPUs now, so in theory, prices should be more in line with expectations.

If I recall correctly, the RDNA2 Compute Unit's power consumption increases quite a lot at higher clock speeds, I'd be surprised if this isn't something AMD improves significantly with RDNA3 (cheaper than having a lot more CUs).

You need to watch AMD carefully, they are still trying to sell off their RDNA2 cards (above MSRP) before telling people about the next gen :D
 
Hard to be excited for them. It's looking like they will optimise the hell out of their margins as their main priority. As for RT performance we have no signs that should give us hope they'll even reach parity with NVIDIA, DLSS remains superior to FSR on image quality & performance, plus all the other extras (CUDA, Gameworks, NVENC etc.) and even the vram advantage AMD had this time looks to be negated as 4000 series will finally offer more sensible options. At best AMD will be more efficient in a few games & with better power management overall.

There was more excitement last year when the rumours were that they'd release a really fat MCM card as the flagship, so even if RT was lacklustre again then at least you get rasterisation performance out the eyeballs, but now we know it's much more pared back so it's all a big meh.
 
^^

FSR 2.1 is much better now, pretty much on par and you wouldn't notice the difference too much out of side by side comparisons. Seems to be picking up the pace a bit more now as well.
 
Price/performance and accessible pricing is what gets people excited.

I didn't hear a peep about that looking good so why would there be significant excitement.
 
g67575 said:
Considering what an improvement RDNA and RDNA2 were, there doesn't seem to be much excitement for RDNA3. AMD's GPU roadmap shows a release date of Q4 2022, here..
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Nvidia have a more leaky ship. I'm almost beginning to think that's by design.

Whatever, Starfield is 9 months away, so not much reason to upgrade until at least then.

I'm happy to wait and see if Lisa can ground pound Jenson with RDNA3. :)
 
This will go one of two ways. They either plugged all the holes because they have something amazing and they want to catch Nvidia by surprise. Or they plugged all the holes because they are back to the Vega days.
 
To some extent, I think AMD missed the boat with RDNA2, lots of people bought Nvidia cards before they could reduce prices sufficiently on RDNA2 (even though these cards were a pretty large improvement vs RDNA gen 1). But, I think it will be a different story with RDNA3, especially if they can release 1 or 2 powerful cards by the end of the year.

It seems that Nvidia is not rushing to release their RTX 4000 series cards (maybe they only intend to launch the top tier RTX 4090 /TI cards this year?), so there's an opportunity for AMD to get ahead (if only for 2022).
 
nomadd said:
Nvidia have a more leaky ship. I'm almost beginning to think that's by design.

Whatever, Starfield is 9 months away, so not much reason to upgrade until at least then.

I'm happy to wait and see if Lisa can ground pound Jenson with RDNA3. :)
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I think they heavily astroturf

ltron said:
I am very excited, it's possible that AMD will beat Nvidia for the first time in ages in all key areas.
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:o What information are you basing this on? Like the others have said there have been almost no leaks for AMD
 
ltron said:
I am very excited, it's possible that AMD will beat Nvidia for the first time in ages in all key areas.
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I'm not sure. I'm not expecting them to beat Nvidia on ray tracing considering their advantage with the RTX 3000 series. But, a 100% improvement specifically in RT wouldn't be particularly surprising.
 
g67575 said:
I'm not sure. I'm not expecting them to beat Nvidia on ray tracing considering their advantage with the RTX 3000 series. But, a 100% improvement specifically in RT wouldn't be particularly surprising.
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I too expect a big improvement in raytracing even if they don't beat Nvidia 4000. We will find out just how good AMD's chiplets are, Lisa Su confirmed RDNA 3 uses chiplets (this is what makes it exciting, this is genuine technological innovation and kudos to AMD if they have solved this very difficult problem before Nvidia and Intel).
 
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