Not much excitement for RDNA3, compared to the RTX 4000 series

[g67575]

We will find out just how good AMD's chiplets are, Lisa Su confirmed RDNA 3 uses chiplets

It's probably not what you think. Assuming that they shrinking down the GPU die to 5nm EUV, I imagine that will be enough on it's own to deliver a decent performance improvement without requiring huge amounts of power (in combination with other optimizations). AMD has confirmed they are increasing the power reqs. for RDNA 3, so I would expect a max power consumption of between 350w-400w for the top GPU die, so they will need an improved cooling solution (considering that hotspot temps on the 6900 XT were ~95°C).

That would in theory allow RDNA3 to achieve an overall performance improvement of >50% vs RNDA2. But probably +50% improvement at 300w for the GPU die below the top tier.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

This will go one of two ways. They either plugged all the holes because they have something amazing and they want to catch Nvidia by surprise. Or they plugged all the holes because they are back to the Vega days.

Yeah, another R300 or another R600?

 

[humbug]

Q4 2022? That's in the next 3 to 15 weeks.

 

[hyperseven]

I am very excited, it's possible that AMD will beat Nvidia for the first time in ages in all key areas.

except for market and mindshare since that would take generations to catch up.

 

[g67575]

Q4 2022? That's in the next 3 to 15 weeks.

Any reason to think the roadmap is incorrect?

 

[G J]

Not much has leaked about RDNA 3 yet but its going to be intresting as going by a 6600 using 132 watt max

AMD Radeon RX 6600 Specs

AMD Navi 23, 2491 MHz, 1792 Cores, 112 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

If the 50% more performance at the same power is true then its going to be pretty good getting around 2080ti levels of performance at around 130 watts.

 

[humbug]

Any reason to think the roadmap is incorrect?

No.

 

[humbug]

Not much has leaked about RDNA 3 yet but its going to be intresting as going by a 6600 using 132 watt max

AMD Radeon RX 6600 Specs

AMD Navi 23, 2491 MHz, 1792 Cores, 112 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

If the 50% more performance at the same power is true then its going to be pretty good getting around 2080ti levels of performance at around 130 watts.

This is the generation i'm interested in, 2080Ti + performance at >200 watts.

 

[ltron]

except for market and mindshare since that would take generations to catch up.

Well they've got to start somewhere .

 

[arknor]

when AMD are waiting this long there must have been internal delay and after delay.

Maybe they will just cancel the whole project

 

[g67575]

when AMD are waiting this long there must have been internal delay and after delay.

Maybe they will just cancel the whole project

Did AMD break your sense of optimism?

No new consoles to worry about this year, so things just *might* improve.

 

[lsg1r]

Honestly... if I used my pc purely for gaming then I'd maybe consider AMD gpu's (I've got an AMD cpu after all) but the software I use for non gaming makes use of CUDA and doesn't have any opencl or AMD support basically.

I'm actually more interested in Intel Arc than AMD RNDA3, Intel has the financial clout and connections to maybe force Nvidia to lower prices... if they ever make a gpu 'fast enough' to compete.

 

[humbug]

Honestly... if I used my pc purely for gaming then I'd maybe consider AMD gpu's (I've got an AMD cpu after all) but the software I use for non gaming makes use of CUDA and doesn't have any opencl or AMD support basically.

I'm actually more interested in Intel Arc than AMD RNDA3, Intel has the financial clout and connections to maybe force Nvidia to lower prices... if they ever make a gpu 'fast enough' to compete.

Intel are charging about the same for the A380 as Nvidia are for the GTX 1650, which is a far better GPU and not broken, why would that worry Nvidia?
Its just another over priced GPU, even if it weren't broken.

 

[lsg1r]

Intel are charging about the same for the A380 as Nvidia are for the GTX 1650, which is a far better GPU and not broken, why would that worry Nvidia?
Its just another over priced GPU, even if it weren't broken.

Hence my bit about 'fast enough'... we all know this release is too late, too expensive and clearly not going to compete with current gen let alone what's about to be released.

Arc does actually have some good stuff built in for video encoding but clearly the gaming side of things still suck at the moment.

 

[bfar]

Really looking forward to seeing where these land. FSR2.1 looking promising too.

AMD have caught Nvidia on the hop before, they seem quite well positioned to do it again.

 

[cfletch]

I'm excited! Nvidia cards have been over priced last generation compared to AMD so I'm hoping for a cheap no fuss upgrade

 

[Martini1991]

Given the state of everything I'm finding it hard to be hyped for any new hardware

Just bought a steam deck, I've got a decentish gaming laptop and my PC is a 3900X and RX6800, think I'm just going to enjoy my games a bit

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Personally I would have been in the market for a 6900 with current gen, it just came a bit too late and got caught in the price inflation

I am definitely interested to see what they've got, very little in the way of leaks but there is some logical analysis from Coreteks and NAAF that suggest its going to be good.

There is really four unanswered questions as I see it:
1. Has this MCD chiplet approach introduced any latency i.e. are we going to see really good average frame rates but the 1% lows go up or down?
2. How are AMD going to price this next to Nvidia 4000 series, I guess we won't know that until Nvidia commit?
3. What's the story with the multiple GCD part(s), is that RDNA4 territory or something in the near future for gamers?
4. What's the 4k+ resolution performance this time relative to 4000 series, important info for VR users

 

[g67575]

Actually, I think the biggest question for AMD is, will production of RDNA3 cards be significantly higher than RDNA2 cards?

Will it be possible to buy reference model RDNA3 cards in most countries?

Does AMD even care about selling reference models any more, or is it all for show?

 

[Nexus18]

Actually, I think the biggest question for AMD is, will production of RDNA3 cards be significantly higher than RDNA2 cards?

Will it be possible to buy reference model RDNA3 cards in most countries?

Does AMD even care about selling reference models any more, or is it all for show?

They aren't supplying 80% of their stock to consoles this time so most definitely they should have plenty to go around.

Question is if they will have a UK store and with bot protection....