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Not much excitement for RDNA3, compared to the RTX 4000 series
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Yes they are, well if you buy these and think you are getting a good deal then that's your ignorance not mine.
I am not talking about their unlaunched 4080 12GB here. g67575 said 4070 which is not the same. The rebranded gimped 4080 is now called the 4070Ti unless I am mistaken.
The regular 4070 is going to be scaled back spec wise so yes it will be the same as a 3080 or worse.
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I think the following.
7900XTX +54% @4k as calculated from the AMD slides
7900XT +30% @4k as calculated from the AMD slides
7800XT +20% @4k - I expect AMD will want to not sell 7900XT if possible hence the poor price/perf vs the XTX. A 7800XT at this performance level with XTX price/perf comes in around $700.
7700XT +5% @ 1440p - rumour was that the laptop version at 150W was 6950XT level approx so an extra 20-30% power might give an extra 5-10% performance.
7600XT -15% @ 1080p - expect this to land around 6800XT at 1080p but at higher res it will drop off quit a bit.
The BOM cost of the 7800XT will be a lot lower than the 7900XT so selling the 7800XT for $700 and the 7900XTX for $1,000 gives AMD the best margins and while the 7900XT will exist to use up the parts that can't be an XTX the launch pricing suggests already that they are not getting many parts that can't be made as an XTX.
The other option is AMD will just drop the price of the 7900XT a bit around 7800XT launch to bring the price/perf in line with the XTX.
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So you think the 7800XT will use the N31 die then? as leaks are pointing to the 7800XT being on the N32 only gives a maximum of 60 CUs which would mean 24 less than the 7900XT hence why I think if they do go with this die it won't be much faster than the 6950XT.
Some people need to be told more than once before they understand.You keep repeating the same thing, do you need to be reset
No he means the 7800XT will use N32, but will be priced sensibly vs the N31 7900XTX - leaving the 7900XT aa a slight outlier and poorer value, even if it does perform slightly better. Reason being that good yields on N31 would mean AMD struggle to supply that model line with enough chips without cutting down fully working N31 dies to the 7900XT spec, so AMD will want to limit the sell rate of that model slightly.
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That would be very good performance for a 60CU N32 (7800XT). They could probably only achieve that if they get the bug that prevents N31 from boosting higher sorted. Hope your predictions are right
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That would be very good performance for a 60CU N32 (7800XT). They could probably only achieve that if they get the bug that prevents N31 from boosting higher sorted. Hope your predictions are right
Yup. 7900XT is clocked around 2Ghz with 24 extra CUs so if the 7800XT clocks around 2.8 GHz it will be equal in raster performance.
2.8Ghz is not that far away from the clocks of the 6700XT and the 7900XTX did see a boost over the 6950XT so it does not seem impossible.
I think we all understood, then promptly moved onSome people need to be told more than once before they understand.
Surely, we know by now not to judge a book by it's cover, in this case, the product model numbers of unreleased products?
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Yep so not really a sidegrade more like stagnation. People that normally look to the 70 class may well be better off watching for deals on the 3090/6900 cards.
tbf, Nvidia made it pretty clear early on that the upcoming generation was 'Ampere Next'. I.e. nothing really new:
But I guess, the hype train gonna hype.
Ampere Next is a scaled up version of Ampere, with better cooling on a much denser fabrication process, with higher power usage at the high end. Same GDDR6X, but a bit faster.
It's likely to be a similar thing for the imaginatively named 'Ampere Next Next'. Which will likely utilize TSMC's 3nm technology, or possibly Samsung's 3nm if it ends up cheaper...
They are exaggerating their rate of progress, as it's really leaps every 2 years, not every year...
But I guess, the hype train gonna hype.
Ampere Next is a scaled up version of Ampere, with better cooling on a much denser fabrication process, with higher power usage at the high end. Same GDDR6X, but a bit faster.
It's likely to be a similar thing for the imaginatively named 'Ampere Next Next'. Which will likely utilize TSMC's 3nm technology, or possibly Samsung's 3nm if it ends up cheaper...
They are exaggerating their rate of progress, as it's really leaps every 2 years, not every year...
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Sorry but that's horse ****. There is no fairness for the price hike.
But it is two years as that's the gap between last gen and this gen. We are not talking of refreshes or inter-year stuff. 3070 > 4070.
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