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Not much excitement for RDNA3, compared to the RTX 4000 series

Donno it's that's true, but it's also clocked very high, is built with the 4nm EUV TSMC process, with apparently more cache.

The only thing that concerns me is the continued use of GDDR6X, which no doubt runs very hot. Never had a problem with my RTX 3070 FE.

EDIT - It's possible NVIDIA has made some improvements to either their cooling or VRAM, as the GDDR6X VRAM apparently peaks around 84 Celsius:
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...s/nvidia-rtx-4090-founders-edition-review/25/

Thermal imaging results looking good too:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_4090_suprim_liquid_x_review,8.html

Suppose we'll see.
Nvidia has used the gains of TSMC 5nm to heavily cut down everything under the 4090 and while the that card sees impressive gains both 4080s have less of an uplift over a 3080 compared to what the 3080 had against the 2080 while costing 50% and 100% more.

I expect a 4080 12gb to average 10% faster than a 3080 10gb while the 4080 16gb will land around 35% faster in raster.

The 4070 is a cut down 4080 12gb silicon so I imagine it'll be around 3080 speed while also costing 3080 prices and again is a farcry from the 3070 which matched a 2080ti while costing £469. So yeah while TSMC 5nm is a great process the customers under a 4090 are not really getting any benefit from it in terms of performance but rather nvidia is just dishing out smaller cheaper to produce dies while doubling card prices so they are the only ones benefitting.
 
I'm excited for RDNA3, because a) I quite want an AMD card so I can build a multi-boot hackintosh and b) The 6950xt beat the 3090Ti in basically everything but RT performance, AFAICT, so I wanna see what a 7900xt can do, and at what price. Team green have gone off the deep end with their prices, let's see what team red can do!
 
What would you guys be willing to pay for a RTX 4070? Would £600-£700 be too much?

It does seem like this card will still receive most of the benefits of the RTX 4000 series (e.g. improved ray tracing performance). I'm guessing 10/12GB of VRAM?

nvidia's mid to mid-upper stuff is basically dead until 30 series stock is gone, guessing it'll get a good refresh with a super or ti version next year
 
I think at the high-end the 4090 has probably left AMD in the dust and the DLSS 3.0 & the frame generation uplift for specific high demanding titles will ensure AMD struggles to come close.

However, I think at the mid-range, AMD can easily provide a better value proposition to the two 4080 models.
 
I think at the high-end the 4090 has probably left AMD in the dust and the DLSS 3.0 & the frame generation uplift for specific high demanding titles will ensure AMD struggles to come close.

However, I think at the mid-range, AMD can easily provide a better value proposition to the two 4080 models.

I dont think AMD will be far behind at all, maybe in RTX but other wise i think they will come out swinging. Nvidia has crippled the 4080 series, and in 6 months the 4080ti will be needed to counter AMD 7800XT 7900XT and 7950XT the 4090ti will also make an appearance in 8 months to a year. if they can power the thing with out melt down.
I hope they do a 970pro 980pro on nvidia lol.
 
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The 4090's use of DP 1.4 has injected some patience into my desire to upgrade.

AMD's use of DP 2.0 could get me to look past their neglect of VR driver regression over the past few months.
 
I think at the high-end the 4090 has probably left AMD in the dust and the DLSS 3.0 & the frame generation uplift for specific high demanding titles will ensure AMD struggles to come close.

However, I think at the mid-range, AMD can easily provide a better value proposition to the two 4080 models.
I don't think it matters much, any GPUs released based on the AD103 GPU die will stay stupidly expensive (RTX 4080 16gb, 4090 and 4090 TI probably next year).

It will be interesting to sell how RDNA 3 stacks up against the RTX 4080 16GB. I kind of think they should call it something else, since it's clearly a different product to the 12GB variant.
 
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nVidia have pulled the 4080 12gb....which just means they'll call it the 4070 instead! (like everyone was anyway)
 

nVidia have pulled the 4080 12gb....which just means they'll call it the 4070 instead! (like everyone was anyway)
Yeah nothing bizarre about this, it's based on a different chip to the RTX 4080 16GB.

It's quite annoying actually, because it is likely to delay the launch of the top AD104 GPU (previously named the RTX 4080GB 12GB), that will now likely be called the RTX 4070 and could basically cost the same as it did before it was renamed.
 
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nVidia have pulled the 4080 12gb....which just means they'll call it the 4070 instead! (like everyone was anyway)

4070 with price tag £949 ? Maybe £700 if we lucky
 
A reputed leaker has said that the top RDNA GPU is not able to compete well with the 4090 in both raster and RT which makes sense as its ridiculously fast. I am seeing 2x performance vs. my 3080 Ti in many areas. Add DLSS 3 on top of that and AMD has its work cut out. AMD needs to make the mid range count as that's a segment NVIDIA seems happy to ignore to push their ASP.
 

nVidia have pulled the 4080 12gb....which just means they'll call it the 4070 instead! (like everyone was anyway)
I think it should have been more like the 4060ti.
 
Yeah nothing bizarre about this, it's based on a different chip to the RTX 4080 16GB.

It's quite annoying actually, because it is likely to delay the launch of the top AD104 GPU (previously named the RTX 4080GB 12GB), that will now likely be called the RTX 4070 and could basically cost the same as it did before it was renamed.

It's even worse when you look at the die sizes. The GPU size of the AD104 is under 300MM2 so is closer to the GA106 rather than the GA104. It also has a 192 bit memory bus like an RTX3060.

So even calling it an RTX4070 is generous to Nvidia. It is more like an RTX4060 or RTX4060TI. Even if it was an RTX4070 it would need to be sub £500.
 
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Kinda is big deal when they are back tracking
And thought they could get away with it

3080 £650 to 16gb 4080 £1269. Is ridiculous as well
I wouldn't be supprised if we see the 16gb versions price cut to $900 now and a 4080ti replace it at $1200.
 
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A reputed leaker has said that the top RDNA GPU is not able to compete well with the 4090 in both raster and RT which makes sense as its ridiculously fast. I am seeing 2x performance vs. my 3080 Ti in many areas. Add DLSS 3 on top of that and AMD has its work cut out. AMD needs to make the mid range count as that's a segment NVIDIA seems happy to ignore to push their ASP.
is it MLID?
 
A reputed leaker has said that the top RDNA GPU is not able to compete well with the 4090 in both raster and RT which makes sense as its ridiculously fast. I am seeing 2x performance vs. my 3080 Ti in many areas. Add DLSS 3 on top of that and AMD has its work cut out. AMD needs to make the mid range count as that's a segment NVIDIA seems happy to ignore to push their ASP.
Personally speaking it's the midrange that interests me.

I don't care who has the lots of power lots of performance title, I just want a good value card that doesn't cost silly money.
 
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