Nurburgring - German Grand Prix 2009 - Race 9/17

Just saw qualifying.

Shocked at how light the Brawn's are. Seemed to struggle to get temp into the tyre's, had a better chance adding more weight :p

What a brilliant job Sutil did, heavier car than the Ferrari's and out qualified them!

God knows why the Ferrari's didn't go a little lighter, I guess they are just going for the 'safer' option to collect a few championship points rather going for the podium.

Ive got a sneeky feeling Hamilton will come close to winning the race tomorrow. He has looked super confident around the track and now has a decent car underneath him. Also has the advantage of Kovalainen being around. The McLaren boys have been very busy indeed :p

Roll on the race tomorrow, a little rain would make it hugely interesting, it will play into Brawn's hands then.
 
Bennah said:
Roll on the race tomorrow, a little rain would make it hugely interesting, it will play into Brawn's hands then.
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Not really.... heavy cars are more likely to get 'lucky' with the rain, plus last time it rained the RBs were much better.

If its dry, I think webber or (outside shot) lewis for the win. If it rains, I'd put my money on vettel. I really want jenson to win this race + championship, but dont see him doing better than 4th in this race tbh! Massive importance, as ever, on the start.
 
The Brawns are up there. Very light, quick off the start if they dont stall it outcourse. Large chance of passing a few cars down into the first corner.

If it then starts to rain, everyone would be coming in pretty much the same time which then the Brawn cars could re-fuel.

All depends whether it starts dry and gets wet before the first stops. As we've seen this season though, anything can happen.

Im predicting Kimi to finish 3rd. Its about time he drove quick and done something!
 
deuse said:
That happend on turn 9 or 10 corner I think?
But I can still see LH having a go on turn one.
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Mid lap Massa took Hamilton out, but it was the incident on the first corner that was the problem. see here
Goksly said:
fuji last year was when he steamed into 1st corner after the start and pushed massa uber wide.... got a drive through for that didnt he?
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Yup, drive through (as opposed to a 10 second stop go which Massa got for hitting Lewis iirc)

There is no doubt in my mind (or any sane mind really!) that Lewis will be having a go at the first corner, and I'd be surprised if he isn't in 3rd after the first corner, but he will be a little more cautious than he was into the first bend at Fuji last year.
 
Bennah said:
The Brawns are up there. Very light, quick off the start if they dont stall it outcourse. Large chance of passing a few cars down into the first corner.
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Not sure how many cars brawns have passed at the start? Not needed to in a few cases, but have probably gone backwards more than forwards.

Also the fact that they are light means there is a higher chance of them having to pit before it rains and thus lose out considerably. Lets see what happens though :)
 
Goksly said:
Also the fact that they are light means there is a higher chance of them having to pit before it rains and thus lose out considerably. Lets see what happens though :)
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That's just the thing with rain, they might have to pit 5 laps before the rain hits and lose out massively to RB or the rain might come just as they pit and mean the extra fuel RB had was wasted. Or the rain could hit at a bad time for both of them, or neither.

Impossible to call until you know when the rain hits. :D
 
I will have to kill you if this information is true! or the forecaster.....

Edit: Darn you're lucky, seems there will be rain at the Nurburgring all day today, with light showers during the race and temperatures around 18 degrees C. Bleh. :P
 
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deuse said:
You have been humming :)
Now you got to do a little dance to bring back to sun...with pics :D
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Trust me, I can barely move right now. Three days of moving house (from my flat on the second floor) have nearly killed me, and I still have another run to make today before the GP. You aint getting any dancing out of this lady! :p
 
Found a web cam of the circuit, so we can keen an eye on the weather.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/10/nurburgring-race-track-live-webcam.html

First one is the old track, but scroll down for the smaller ones below. Can spot the new rollercoaster in there too.


edit: seems to be out of date, that is an old image on the track but upto date on the old track, oh well. The old track is a good indication too as its right by it.
 
Eurosport looks like they'll be showing GP2 and porsche supercup races so should be able to check the weather with those

Gp2 sprint race just starting on eurosport 2.
Track is cold and damp, not raining at the moment. Cars starting on wets.
 
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Sunday weather update - wet race day forecast

Welcome to race day for the ninth round of the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship, the European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.

Rain greeted the paddock's arrival at the Nurburgring on Sunday morning and similar conditions are expected to prevail throughout the day, with an ambient temperature high of 14 degrees Celsius.

The race will run over 60 laps of the 5.148 kilometres (3.199 mile) circuit, or 308.863 kilometres (191.938 miles). It starts at 1400 hours local time, which is two hours ahead of GMT.
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totaly shocked at how light the brawns are and how heavy hamilton is. with a kers start he should jump a couple places and will be in a very good spot.

i still have vettel down for the win.
 
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