NVIDIA 2060 SUPER & 2070 SUPER AVAILABLE TOMORROW AT 14:00 !!!!

havenrl · 8 Jul 2019 at 19:59

Martini1991 said:
2070 Super can be had for £95 more than a 5700XT.
Better performance.
Better Thermals.
Better Acoustics.
2 AAA games.

2070 Super OC is 2080 performance.

Exactly this. I am thinking the same.
Unless you want a free room heater, go ahead for NAVI.

Rannoch · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:00

Best card for 1440p 144hz guys?

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:00

Vargas said:
Best card for 1440p 144hz guys?

Value, 2070S. In order to keep at the upper end of that Mhz, 2080S.

I'd go 2070S myself.

Martini1991 · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:01

Marine-RX179 said:
He didn't say 2070S specifically, he would be talking about the 2060S

If we assume £60 for the games then 2060 Super actually doesn't look *as* bad considering it doesn't have the same caveats.
Though I think the performance on offer for its price point is unacceptable.

Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:01

Marine-RX179 said:
I need to do a double-take at looking at the £475 Asus 2070S...no Asus tax !!??

Yeah but it’s a launch only price from them as it’s OC model they have no none OC this part will go upto around £500 a few days after launch.

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:02

Gibbo said:
Yeah but it’s a launch only price from them as it’s OC model they have no none OC this part will go upto around £500 a few days after launch.

Nice, I'd go for one of those for sure :cool:

Rannoch · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:03

JediFragger said:
Value, 2070S. In order to keep at the upper end of that Mhz, 2080S.

I'd go 2070S myself.

Thanks matey

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:17

havenrl said:
Exactly this. I am thinking the same.
Unless you want a free room heater, go ahead for NAVI.

I thought power consumption was roughly ballpark?? RX5700XT around the same as a RTX2070,and the RX5700 around the same as a RTX2060??

Martini1991 said:
If we assume £60 for the games then 2060 Super actually doesn't look *as* bad considering it doesn't have the same caveats.
Though I think the performance on offer for its price point is unacceptable.

Isn't there a hardware lock for some of these bundles(can only be run on systems with certain graphics cards),or is it something I imagined?

havenrl · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:22

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I thought power consumption was roughly ballpark?? RX5700XT around the same as a RTX2070,and the RX5700 around the same as a RTX2060??

I was just kidding there, for a laugh.

Hitting 92C in some runs does make the NAVI warm, when the 2070S sitting no higher than 70C.

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:23

havenrl said:
Hitting 92C in some runs does make the NAVI warm, when the 2070S sitting no higher than 70C.

Only one site hit that high, TPU afaik. Maybe high ambient?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:25

havenrl said:
I was just kidding there, for a laugh.

Hitting 92C in some runs does make the NAVI warm, when the 2070S sitting no higher than 70C.

The blower cooler is crap,but if anything the RTX2070 Super will be a better heater, as the cooler is actually expelling the hot air quicker than the cooler on the RX5700XT! In the case of the RX5700XT the cooler is not moving heat out of the system quick enough and it runs too hot. More like a heat trap....a dented one at that too!

havenrl · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:30

JediFragger said:
Only one site hit that high, TPU afaik. Maybe high ambient?

That's probably the case. Most runs of NAVI I saw 70-80C.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The blower cooler is crap,but if anything the RTX2070 Super will be a better heater, as the cooler is actually expelling the hot air quicker than the cooler on the RX5700XT! In the case of the RX5700XT the cooler is not moving heat out of the system quick enough and it runs too hot. More like a heat trap....a dented one at that too!

Aye, blower's just useless.
Maybe a cost cutting exercise.

Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:38

JediFragger said:
Only one site hit that high, TPU afaik. Maybe high ambient?

In our open bench testing in a warm office with no AC the card was 70c running Heaven maxed out on 4K resolution and though it was audible it was quieter than past blower cards. Seems not so bad but could be better but it’s the best blower cooler yet.

Ezyryder · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:39

Martini1991 said:
2070 Super can be had for £95 more than a 5700XT.
Better performance.
Better Thermals.
Better Acoustics.
2 AAA games.

2070 Super OC is 2080 performance.

The way I see it based on the stats:

More expensive
Similar performance to the 5700 XT (a bit faster)
Once partner cards are out similar thermals and acoustics
Roughly similar game bundle. The game bundle compared to the 3 month membership is much of a muchness, lots of good games to play in 3 months. Personally I would call that a tie.

Each to their own but I think both the 2070S and 2060S are horribly priced against the Navi offerings.

I have a 1080ti but if I was buying now I would probably buy a 5700 XT. That is me though, I care about performance per buck at 1440p and Navi is superior to the 2070S or 2060S in that respect.

Martini1991 · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:43

Ezyryder said:
The way I see it based on the stats:

More expensive
Similar performance to the 5700 XT (a bit faster)
Once partner cards are out similar thermals and acoustics
Roughly similar game bundle. The game bundle compared to the 3 month membership is much of a muchness, lots of good games to play in 3 months. Personally I would call that a tie.

Each to their own but I think both the 2070S and 2060S are horribly priced against the Navi offerings.

I have a 1080ti but if I was buying now I would probably buy a 5700 XT. That is me though, I care about performance per buck at 1440p and Navi is superior to the 2070S or 2060S in that respect.

If this card had a different cooler I'd agree with you.

But having gone through a 290X reference and a Vega 64 reference I just can't stomach another poor AMD reference card again.
I'm an AMD fan.

Ezyryder · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:47

I am not a fan of anybody or anything. The 3rd party cards will launch soon, it is a few weeks at most.

Performance is on par for a lot less money, the 2070S is superior in some games, the 5700 XT is superior in others.

Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 20:55

Ezyryder said:
I am not a fan of anybody or anything. The 3rd party cards will launch soon, it is a few weeks at most.

Performance is on par for a lot less money, the 2070S is superior in some games, the 5700 XT is superior in others.

All I would say one thing in AMDs favour they gain more performance over time so something to maybe consider.

RX 580 vs 1060 6G at launch 1060 won but now RX 580 wins at everything.

If NAVI has similar gains then 5700 XT may beat Super in months to come in most games but time will tell but I feel both 5700 and Super cards represent much better value.

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2019 at 21:00

Gibbo said:
Seems not so bad but could be better but it’s the best blower cooler yet.

Good to know

Martini1991 · 8 Jul 2019 at 21:01

Ezyryder said:
I am not a fan of anybody or anything. The 3rd party cards will launch soon, it is a few weeks at most.

Performance is on par for a lot less money, the 2070S is superior in some games, the 5700 XT is superior in others.

OC'ing results thus far put the 2070S further ahead though.
There's no guarantee with AIB pricing.

I've scoured reviews and I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place I think.

At the moment I'm just sticking a morpheus on my Vega 64 though.

JediFragger · 8 Jul 2019 at 21:02

Martini1991 said:
At the moment I'm just sticking a morpheus on my Vega 64 though.

If I do get the 5700XT then I'm hoping they fit those too for down the road