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Bad coding affects both. When one is faster with bad coding..
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All of them? Especially when heavy rt is involved, cyberpunk spiderman...
Looks like amd cpus are holding back 4090:
Kind of wish I went with a 13600k setup now instead of 5800x3d
I'm not surprised, in footage I saw yesterday I noticed the rtx4090 was sitting at just 50% usage at 4k Ultra with RT on. Turning on frame generation doesn't help even though frame generation is supposed to remove CPU bottlenecks so something else may be going on
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Stop turning this into that rubbish of "whataboutism", he clearly said he didn't want to get a nvidia gpu because of the vram "issue" i.e. "dead on arrival" so why not buy the gpu with more vram since performance will be better with a gpu that has more vram, right..... no.
You think it might get fixed in a future update?
Just enjoy the 5800x3d for two more years and then when the next gen cards come out you can upgrade the CPU around that time.
Lucky for me I do not think it would have much of an impact as I plan to go back to 4K at some point so that will give my 5900X much more breathing room. Plus I would not be bothered if I could not hit higher fps as much. As long as it can hit at least 60fps I would be content
Hopefully! Fingers crossed it is on the game side and not amd side as we'll be waiting forever if it is on amd.....
And yeah exactly, will enjoy it for now, even the current top end cpus are still holding back the 4090 so maybe the next cpus will allow the 4090 to stretch its legs more.
Now that you mention this, I think similar behaviour has happened in other games when it comes to amd cpus and frame generation, was it spiderman miles morale and maybe witcher 3?
Massively? Cloud cokoo thinking. GoW and Horizon forbidden west (plus many, many others) are simply stunning on a 4k TV with HDR on console. PS5 hits 60 fps with ease (yes, using the same kind of upsampling techniques PC users get.)And by doing that, sacrifices graphical settings and res. massivelyMight as well get a steam deck then
PC gaming is an overpriced joke at the moment. No amount of confirmation bias posting on OCUK will change that.
Massively? Cloud cokoo thinking. GoW and Horizon forbidden west (plus many, many others) are simply stunning on a 4k TV with HDR on console. PS5 hits 60 fps with ease (yes, using the same kind of upsampling techniques PC users get.)
PC gaming is an overpriced joke at the moment. No amount of confirmation bias posting on OCUK will change that.
And just like the GOW and HZD which arrived on pc (along with sonys other titles), when those games arrive on pc, they'll likely run at a higher res. more intensive graphics and maybe even RT whilst all being at a higher fps too.
Are you still on a 3080 FE Nexus?
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They never conceived of a situation where someone would want to game with an AMD cpu... Intel inside.
Yup. Can feel a 4090 purchase coming sooner than later to play all these new rubbish optimised titles though
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Unoptimized games are Unoptimized on consoles as well. Case in point, forspoken drops to 720p on a ps5. So please, these are comparisons are silly. A mid range pc from 5 years ago can get similar performnace to a console.Massively? Cloud cokoo thinking. GoW and Horizon forbidden west (plus many, many others) are simply stunning on a 4k TV with HDR on console. PS5 hits 60 fps with ease (yes, using the same kind of upsampling techniques PC users get.)
PC gaming is an overpriced joke at the moment. No amount of confirmation bias posting on OCUK will change that.
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I'm sure the game developer or Nvidia will fix whatever issue is going on with this game on Ryzen CPUs. I can confirm that although initially being impressed with frame generation (FG) in Cyberpunk, it has some issues and it looks like the same issues are occurring on the Witcher 3 too. The issues specifically are stuttering, either in game randomly or when navigating menu screens. This issue is discussed here and here. Same developer, same game engine, so maybe related. Unsure if the Hogwarts issue is anything to do with FG or not as I don't have the game yet. Either way, the fixes for all will only come via the developer (most likely) or Nvidia as it'll either be a coding issue or perhaps a driver issue. As soon as turn FG off, everything works as it should.
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We're on an nVidia thread. Rather than discussing the issues with the game on nVidia (the game runs poorly on both AMD and nVidia), you turned it into a "but AMD is no better" post. Hence my "whataboutism" remark.
I'm sure it'll be fixed by the next gen optical flow analyser in the 5000 series
Did you read the post I responded to?
Here I'll quote it for you and highlight the relevant bits.
Hence why I linked "evidence" showing that it isn't vram causing the issue hence why a 4070ti is beating a 7900xtx despite only having 12gb vram.....
Only one making it a "whataboutism" is you.
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Kind of wish I went with a 13600k setup now instead of 5800x3d
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Why do you think the game runs badly on nvidia? Rt off numbers seem perfectly fine, rt on numbers are low but according to hwunboxed the game looks great, so... What am i missing? Its running better than for example cyberpunk.
Same, it will happen at some point but its just whether im willing to wait for an offer nearer black friday or just cave and buy an FE but in all honesty im in no rush right now lol.Yup. Can feel a 4090 purchase coming sooner than later to play all these new rubbish optimised titles though
Or skip this whole gen and wait for 5000 series, can i hold out though. It would mean owning a 3090 closer to 4 years!
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Yeah same here, until now there hasn't really been anything to justify the cost, with dlss and some settings sacrificed, 3080 still doing pretty well at 4k and 3440x1440, if more and more games end up performing like deliver us mars, hogwarts, forspoken then there isn't much choice but to buy something to be able to power its way through the ****** optimisation, that and having FG is a nice pro to have when so many games appear to have rubbish cpu utilization too
Hogwarts Legacy Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis Review - VRAM Usage Record
Hogwarts Legacy lets you relive the steps of Harry Potter and is a fantastic adaptation of the books. In our performance review, we're taking a closer look at image quality, differences between the graphical setting presets, VRAM usage, and performance on a selection of modern graphics cards.
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Good god that AMD performance