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NVIDIA 4000 Series

The new soviet simulator game runs very well on Nvidia and actually very well on all hardware

It's another game where Intel Arc is punching above its price bracket, or maybe their drivers are just that good now.

The AMD performance was retested on their day one drivers, as stated by TPU this improved performance by 1% for the AMD cards




 
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Kaapstad said:
It would also help Nvidia if they went back to producing good cards.

What is being produced now is way too big to fit in a lot of PC cases, even worse if you look at AIB 4090s.

I am actually considering waiting for the Ada Titan, it may be a 4 slot card but at least it will be short enough to fit in my PC cases.

The way things are going now, it would be easier for consumers if Nvidia produced a stand alone card with its own power supply that just sat on the desktop next to the PC.
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I am not bothered about that, I only ever have one card at a time. The way I see that is if they try and go for more efficient cards that need smaller coolers, that would mean ending up with slower GPU's. Like just imagine a 1.5 slot 4090. Would probably perform like a 4080 in order for it to work with a small cooler.

Main thing for me is price for performance. That is a metric they really need to improve.
 
TNA said:
I am not bothered about that, I only ever have one card at a time. The way I see that is if they try and go for more efficient cards that need smaller coolers, that would mean ending up with slower GPU's. Like just imagine a 1.5 slot 4090. Would probably perform like a 4080 in order for it to work with a small cooler.

Main thing for me is price for performance. That is a metric they really need to improve.
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That's the point, if they did what you mentioned above it would actually be cheaper than a 4080 and you would get more bang for buck.
 
TNA said:
I am not bothered about that, I only ever have one card at a time. The way I see that is if they try and go for more efficient cards that need smaller coolers, that would mean ending up with slower GPU's. Like just imagine a 1.5 slot 4090. Would probably perform like a 4080 in order for it to work with a small cooler.

Main thing for me is price for performance. That is a metric they really need to improve.
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Dicehunter said:
Wanting government to do something about big GPU's not fitting into cases isn't just very silly but it's entering totalitarian territory and that is a very slippery slope.
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If that is your benchmark of totalitarianism, we're already there, so don't sweat it.

How much larger than a 3000 is a 4000 card? I remember going from 1070, which I thought was big to a 3080, and it seemed laughably huge. Whilst on a smaller node, ironically enough. I won't lie, as long as it fits in my case it's not a major concern for me, but I can definitely see the concern.

At what size is it doing damage to the motherboard? Isn't there a "dark obelisk" which is basically a prop as sizes have got out of hand? Might not take long before having horizontal, instead of vertical PC's start to become the norm, just to support the parts within.
 
Bill Turnip said:
How much larger than a 3000 is a 4000 card? I remember going from 1070, which I thought was big to a 3080, and it seemed laughably huge. Whilst on a smaller node, ironically enough. I won't lie, as long as it fits in my case it's not a major concern for me, but I can definitely see the concern.
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3000 series was a pretty large card but the 4000 series even managed to make that series look tiny, hope they don't go bigger with the 5000 series as the will be sod all cases it will fit in :cry:


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Raiden85 said:
3000 series was a pretty large card but the 4000 series even managed to make that series look tiny, hope they don't go bigger with the 5000 series as the will be sod all cases it will fit in :cry:


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The 4080 being that large is more of an issue considering it uses less power than a 3080, absolutely no need for them being this large as it restricts buyers and its likely adding to the cost of an already poorly priced product.
 
Joxeon said:
The 4080 being that large is more of an issue considering it uses less power than a 3080, absolutely no need for them being this large as it restricts buyers and its likely adding to the cost of an already poorly priced product.
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Remember the 4080 is using the AD chipset designation that would have historically been for the xx70 etc so the odds are the cooler is overkill because they 'stepped down' a level in terms of heat but left it in the 'case' of the true xx80 chipset etc. It's the same cooler etc as the 4090 too so there probably is some cost saving involved due to economies of scale.

There's also the subconscious effect on people who don't read reviews etc.... hmm bigger than 3000 series so it must be faster than last gen....
 
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I think what is most disturbing is the lack of discounting the ampere stock received if you look over the past year. If anything there were times it has gone up again with no sign of change.
 
Joxeon said:
The 4080 being that large is more of an issue considering it uses less power than a 3080, absolutely no need for them being this large as it restricts buyers and its likely adding to the cost of an already poorly priced product.
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As long as it fit into the case, size doesn't bother me, in fact it is a good thing to have a giant heatsink for silent operation. With the 4080 you can play low demanding games and the fans wont even turn on.
 
kylew_is_back said:
As long as it fit into the case, size doesn't bother me, in fact it is a good thing to have a giant heatsink for silent operation. With the 4080 you can play low demanding games and the fans wont even turn on.
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This is what I absolutely love about the giant heatsink, playing Destiny 2 maxed out at 4K the GPU is only averaging about 60% to 70% usage most of the time and GPU temps is only 55c to 60c while my fan spins at the lowest of 30% or 1100rpm.

Even in the most demanding ray traced games the GPU usually peaks at a steady 65c with a fan speed of 35% to 45%. And this is in an Evolx X case which is not exactly known for its great airflow, I do have a modified front panel for more airflow but it’s still a restrictive case and yet the GPU still runs cool. Thanks to a cooler card it allowed me to lower my case fans by 40% roughly at load and it still keeps my card cooler then the 3090 was, so even with a restrictive case I can still game with far less noise.

Majority of the time the GPU runs a good 10c to 15c cooler than my CPU (5800X3D) depending on the game which is nuts considering the load the GPU under. For less demeaning games like Destiny 2 the temps on both are pretty much equal.
 
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Raiden85 said:
This is what I absolutely love about the giant heatsink, playing Destiny 2 maxed out at 4K the GPU is only averaging about 60% to 70% usage most of the time and GPU temps is only 55c to 60c while my fan spins at the lowest of 30% or 1100rpm.

Even in the most demanding ray traced games the GPU usually peaks at a steady 65c with a fan speed of 35% to 45%. And this is in an Evolx X case which is not exactly known for its great airflow, I do have a modified front panel for more airflow but it’s still a restrictive case and yet the GPU still runs cool. Thanks to a cooler card it allowed me to lower my case fans by 40% roughly at load and it still keeps my card cooler then the 3090 was, so even with a restrictive case I can still game with far less noise.

Majority of the time the GPU runs a good 10c to 15c cooler than my CPU (5800X3D) depending on the game which is nuts considering the load the GPU under. For less demeaning games like Destiny 2 the temps on both are pretty much equal.
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Yea. I really like the giant coolers. How much extra would they be over a smaller standard one £30?
 
kylew_is_back said:
As long as it fit into the case, size doesn't bother me, in fact it is a good thing to have a giant heatsink for silent operation. With the 4080 you can play low demanding games and the fans wont even turn on.
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Well I'd have perfered a small 3080 sized cooler if it meant costs were under £800 where they should be for this card.
 
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