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No solid rumours yet, I expect the summer tbh.
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DF think these spec requirements means a great port
Clueless personnel make up that team of clowns.
4070 is meant to be April 13th, so June onwards for the 4060 is a reasonable guess
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3080 performance for more money is my guess. But Nvidia and their fan base will salivate at the DLSS3 benches.
No idea on timeline but i would not be surprised if the 4060 was around 3070 / 3070TI performance
After the hobbled RTX 4070Ti, not expecting much apart from a downgrade. RTX 4060, or what should be the 4050?
RTX 4070Ti is abysmal at 4k. Now 4K in 2023 should be the normal baseline for any PC GPU.
But no, we get DLSS 3. Upscaling to make up for lack of grunt.
RTX 4070Ti is abysmal at 4k. Now 4K in 2023 should be the normal baseline for any PC GPU.
But no, we get DLSS 3. Upscaling to make up for lack of grunt.
Don't disagree about most of it but I'd argue higher fps 1440p is probably the baseline for 2023, there's still far too many doing 1080p gaming for 4K to the baseline.
Steam, while not the complete picture, has their survey showing that 1080p still has 64.6%, 1440p is 12.33% and 4K is 2.73% as of February 2023
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You want an RTX 4080/4090 for less money then. They didn't produce enough.
Most of the cards coming out are targeted at 1440p, because that's where there is demand, and so most will sell at these prices (which is all AMD / Nvidia will be concerned with).
I personally think 1440p cards like the RTX 4070 TI need a price cut, maybe we will see that with the release of the RTX 4070. The 4070 TI is still quite a lot more powerful than the GPU that the PS5 and Series X have, but unfortunately it is being priced as if it was a high end 4K card.
Look at the RTX 3080, once considered a powerful card, but now only provides enough performance in the most demanding titles to play at 1440p (native) smoothly.
The market should change after we get upgraded consoles, that come closer to providing 4K at 60 FPS, instead of 30. Providing that level of performance so far hasn't been trivial.
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It's a bit chicken and egg though isn't it? Most people play at the resolution that their budget allows, you wouldn't buy a 4k screen if you knew your card wasn't up to the task, and the cards are deffo the price limiting factor, not the screens.
In a way true but at the same time I wouldn't necessarily say anything other than the top tier cards are really aimed at 4K gaming.... but yeah pricing on gpu's IS the issue for most, but then to be fair a whole pc isn't exactly cheap these days.
It's not that the current gen can't do 4K, it's more that I wouldn't be looking at them as a long term solution to 4K, especially with higher than 60fps, which to be fair is still fairly niche outside the 'pc master race'.
Then there's the issue that Nvidia and AMD are pushing AI upscaling tech to boost overall performance and console ports are just not being optimised anywhere near as well as they need to be...a 3080 for example is far higher performing than a console gpu but based on required specs is still going to struggle in newer titles.
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Which tells you all you need to know about this gen. The 3060ti wasn't far off a 3070...but getting on for 3 years later the "4060" matches the 3070ti?
Nvidia RTX Ada Love-Gimped.
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NVIDIA to bundle Redfall: Bite Back Edition with GeForce RTX 40 GPU series - VideoCardz.com
Redfall: Bite Back Edition free with high-end GeForce RTX 40 series NVIDIA announces a new game bundle featuring the game Redfall. Redfall is an upcoming game from Arkane Studios published by Bethesda. This is an open-world first-person shooter featuring both singleplayer and multiplayer modes...
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It's coming to GamePass anyway, so not that big an incentive really.
We're not even 2 and a half years from ampere release. Nvidia are no friend of mine but this statement is exaggeratedWhich tells you all you need to know about this gen. The 3060ti wasn't far off a 3070...but getting on for 3 years later the "4060" matches the 3070ti?
Nvidia RTX Ada Love-Gimped.
We're a few days short of 2 and a half years today (it's been 2 years, 5 months and 27 days since Ampere launched to be exact). The 4070 isn't due out until the middle of next month and the potential 4060 being spoken of hasn't even been announced yet, but is unlikely to arrive for at least a couple of months after that, given the rumours haven't even started yet. So it'll likely be in the region of 2 years and 9 months by the time the 4060 does come out, or... getting on for 3 years.
So no, it isn't really exaggerated at all. It might be if the 4060 was launching tomorrow, but it isn't.
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NVIDIA to bundle Redfall: Bite Back Edition with GeForce RTX 40 GPU series - VideoCardz.com
Redfall: Bite Back Edition free with high-end GeForce RTX 40 series NVIDIA announces a new game bundle featuring the game Redfall. Redfall is an upcoming game from Arkane Studios published by Bethesda. This is an open-world first-person shooter featuring both singleplayer and multiplayer modes...
It's coming to GamePass anyway, so not that big an incentive really.
Yeah means nothing when it's on gamepass
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When spending this much on a card - warranty is most important to me. Performance wise you'd never 'feel' or see the difference between them when playing a game. Measurable, yes. If you are a bencher then you'll want a top teir card, someone'll chime in if benching is your thang.
Avoid - maybe Suprim X as they seem to suffer coil whine consistently.
So I'd go with Zotac with 5yr warranty. But, including myself, did find the fans noisy. I flipped my MOBO tray and turning it upside down cured it. 1 or two manufacturers offer 4 years warranty I think?
What resolution do you game at, or are you VR also? 4090 really needs 4k to be consistently pushed or higher res VR headsets. The game I play most, 4090 sat there doing nothing at 4k - not very demanding game, graphically.
So it's either the FE's at £1599 or any other base AIB models you can find - Then weigh up extra for longer warranty. Extra £150 @OCUK for 5yr warranty on base Zotac, over FE model - does seem steep when you see it like that. FE is 3yrs I think.
Good luck - exciting new shiny inbound
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Someone on overclock.net linked this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4A12gQTHwWhen spending this much on a card - warranty is most important to me. Performance wise you'd never 'feel' or see the difference between them when playing a game. Measurable, yes. If you are a bencher then you'll want a top teir card, someone'll chime in if benching is your thang.
Avoid - maybe Suprim X as they seem to suffer coil whine consistently.
So I'd go with Zotac with 5yr warranty. But, including myself, did find the fans noisy. I flipped my MOBO tray and turning it upside down cured it. 1 or two manufacturers offer 4 years warranty I think?
What resolution do you game at, or are you VR also? 4090 really needs 4k to be consistently pushed or higher res VR headsets. The game I play most, 4090 sat there doing nothing at 4k - not very demanding game, graphically.
So it's either the FE's at £1599 or any other base AIB models you can find - Then weigh up extra for longer warranty. Extra £150 @OCUK for 5yr warranty on base Zotac, over FE model - does seem steep when you see it like that. FE is 3yrs I think.
Good luck - exciting new shiny inbound
I really want to order my next 4090 but ocuk are taking ages to refund me, been 20 days for 1 item so far.