NVIDIA 4000 Series

[Darujhistan]

Another crappy console port?

 

[gpuerrilla]

I think we can safely say most are.

 

[Raiden85]

Sonys ports though are usually extremely good. Performance has always been excellent compared to others games.

Sonys ports have never given me shader stutter crap, rock solid frame times, no crashes and a great UI. A lot native PC games could learn a lot from Sony.

 

[Grim5]

When is OCUK going to stock the new Nvidia giant killer?

 

[Nexus18]

Sonys ports though are usually extremely good. Performance has always been excellent compared to others games.

Sonys ports have never given me shader stutter crap, rock solid frame times, no crashes and a great UI. A lot native PC games could learn a lot from Sony.

Usually run better on Nvidia GPUs too

 

[Calin Banc]

Doesn't matter much to me, as hardware can either keep up, or it can't. I don't wanna buy a card that can't at least handle 1440p (1% lows of 60 FPS or more) in every game available when I buy. Right now, that would mean buying an RTX 3080 or better.

I'd also consider a card from AMD, even if it struggles when ray tracing is enabled. 1440p upscaled to 4K is achievable with a minimal performance hit, and both companies can do this through driver support (e.g. RSR).

We're seeing games in development now that recommend a RTX 3080, for smooth gameplay at 1440p:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/954850/discussions/0/3772364949843948880/

Wisely, this company doesn't give a recommendation for 4K native. The power requirements for steady gameplay at 4K on today's cards can be pretty intense.

lol, that's poor optimization.

5900X is an odd choice for 4K ultra, especially when they recommend a 12600k as an alternative which only has 6 performance cores and 4 efficiency ones vs 5900x which has 12 full fat cores.

Is not about the cores after some point, but how fast they are. Remember how an Intel quad was far ahead of an 8 core AMD, back in the day?

 

[g67575]

It depends what you mean by poor optimisation - The low hanging fruit is support for APIs like Directx 12, or using modern game engines like Unreal Engine 4/5.

The support for DX12 in games like KSP 2 is only partial at the moment, so there's still work to do on the optimisation side. But, it's rare to see more than 10/20% performance difference between DX11 and DX12 (or other APIs like Vulkan).

Warhammer 3 is another example of a game that had limited support for DX12 (but unfortunately, the devs seem to have given up on supporting DX12 in the 3rd game). I blame SEGA (the publisher), they are always trying to cut development costs.

 

[Raiden85]

lol, that's poor optimization.



Is not about the cores after some point, but how fast they are. Remember how an Intel quad was far ahead of an 8 core AMD, back in the day?

True but the 1200 series isn’t that far ahead core for core especially at 4k.

 

[Calin Banc]

It depends what you mean by poor optimisation - The low hanging fruit is support for APIs like Directx 12, or using modern game engines like Unreal Engine 4/5.

The support for DX12 in games like KSP 2 is only partial at the moment, so there's still work to do on the optimisation side. But, it's rare to see more than 10/20% performance difference between DX11 and DX12 (or other APIs like Vulkan).

Warhammer 3 is another example of a game that had limited support for DX12 (but unfortunately, the devs seem to have given up on supporting DX12 in the 3rd game). I blame SEGA (the publisher), they are always trying to cut development costs.

If they don't optimize for a specific API then the use of such API is meaningless outside some wider support for multiple OSes (with Vulkan for example).
I mean, yeah, I understand some higher requirements for Star Citizen (that actually looks good), but KSP2, from some clips I saw is just a case of early development resource hog...

True but the 1200 series isn’t that far ahead core for core especially at 4k.

It depends in what scenarios they've tested and what where their variables. I don't look that much into CPU specs and as always I wait for the game to be launched and tested to see if the system specs are legit (as in the game actually gives back for what resources needs) or just lazy / rushed work.

 

[beerglass007]

Just sold my 3080 10GB and got a 4090 FE this weekend. Trying it out and everything is smooth/fast and set to extreme

Currently playing at 27" 1440P on a Dell IPS panel @165 HZ

Quick question will my AMD 5800X3D bottle neck the GPU much or a little ?

Also what are people doing with 4K or 2K on the 4090 ? I'm not saw its worth buying a 4K monitor at 27", so would need to buy 32"

I'm also looking at OLED monitors but again not sure I'll go 2K or 4K. I have a 55" C2 down stairs which I'll try out but can't keep my PC downstairs all the time

So not going to rush out and buy a new monitor yet but wondered what everyone else is doing with their 4090s

 

[LtMatt]

Just sold my 3080 10GB and got a 4090 FE this weekend. Trying it out and everything is smooth/fast and set to extreme

Currently playing at 27" 1440P on a Dell IPS panel @165 HZ

Quick question will my AMD 5800X3D bottle neck the GPU much or a little ?

Also what are people doing with 4K or 2K on the 4090 ? I'm not saw its worth buying a 4K monitor at 27", so would need to buy 32"

I'm also looking at OLED monitors but again not sure I'll go 2K or 4K. I have a 55" C2 down stairs which I'll try out but can't keep my PC downstairs all the time

So not going to rush out and buy a new monitor yet but wondered what everyone else is doing with their 4090s

A little bit perhaps. What games will you be playing?

 

[Noxia]

Just sold my 3080 10GB and got a 4090 FE this weekend. Trying it out and everything is smooth/fast and set to extreme

Currently playing at 27" 1440P on a Dell IPS panel @165 HZ

Quick question will my AMD 5800X3D bottle neck the GPU much or a little ?

Also what are people doing with 4K or 2K on the 4090 ? I'm not saw its worth buying a 4K monitor at 27", so would need to buy 32"

I'm also looking at OLED monitors but again not sure I'll go 2K or 4K. I have a 55" C2 down stairs which I'll try out but can't keep my PC downstairs all the time

So not going to rush out and buy a new monitor yet but wondered what everyone else is doing with their 4090s

1440UW and 4K. I am looking forward to when we have cards that can do proper 4K without compromising IQ with DLSS. There is a huge drop in IQ in some games between UWQHD and 4K, you may ruin it for yourself when you try your PC on your C2.

 

[beerglass007]

1440UW and 4K. I am looking forward to when we have cards that can do proper 4K without compromising IQ with DLSS. There is a huge drop in IQ in some games between UWQHD and 4K, you may ruin it for yourself when you try your PC on your C2.

You run both 1140UW and 4K ? Do you find 4K needs DLSS ? I hate all this fake frame stuff.

When you say it will ruin it for myself, you saying the C2 is that good

 

[Noxia]

You run both 1140UW and 4K ? Do you find 4K needs DLSS ? I hate all this fake frame stuff.

When you say it will ruin it for myself, you saying the C2 is that good

Not at the same time* it doesn't always need DLSS, you can compromise on other settings to keep frame rates up and remember if you have it on then you aren't running real 4k.

I have an OLED monitor but I'm saying the C2 is likely going to make your monitor feel poor by virtue of it just being OLED, the resolution bump is a bonus.

 

[beerglass007]

Not at the same time* it doesn't always need DLSS, you can compromise on other settings to keep frame rates up and remember if you have it on then you aren't running real 4k.

I have an OLED monitor but I'm saying the C2 is likely going to make your monitor feel poor by virtue of it just being OLED, the resolution bump is a bonus.

That's interesting. I'm thinking a 2K OLED 240HZ would be better option than a 4K OLED at 120HZ. Because the difference in 2K vs 4K is slight compared to going from IPS to OLED technology

 

[Noxia]

That's interesting. I'm thinking a 2K OLED 240HZ would be better option than a 4K OLED at 120HZ. Because the difference in 2K vs 4K is slight compared to going from IPS to OLED technology

I don't think it's slight tbh but then we all have different eyes lol.
Agree IPS>OLED is the bigger change overall, but then do you think you'd be happy at 2K instead of I don't know The 42-in c2 which will give you OLED and 4K?
There aren't many options. Also, you can use that thing to scale up the rendering quality through Nvidia control panel which is kind of a compromise if you got a 2k screen.

 

[Frenzy]

So, I was adamant I wouldn't use DLSS, but witcher 3 RT ULTRA max settings I get about 50fps outside with all the foliage and distant views. With DLSS it knocks it up to 70to 80 and the game is a lot smoother. IQ wise it looks pretty much the same as without.

 

[beerglass007]

So, I was adamant I wouldn't use DLSS, but witcher 3 RT ULTRA max settings I get about 50fps outside with all the foliage and distant views. With DLSS it knocks it up to 70to 80 and the game is a lot smoother. IQ wise it looks pretty much the same as without.

Using what GPU ?

 

[Frenzy]

Oh sorry, MSI 4090 Suprim X at 4k res

 

[faceman123]

Hello Folks, i'm feeling lazy, i know this has been asnwered probably 5000 times, but here goes

When is the ETA for 4060Ti/4060 and their prices? lastly any news on how they'll perfrom.