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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Calin Banc said:
DLSS hasn't been nerfed yet for Turing (touching wood), quite the contrary - it gets better and supper simple to upgrade to latest version by copying a dll, stuff which is impossible for FSR. My 2080 aged like fine wine thanks to it. :)
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They also seem to have unlocked the encoding capabilities (could encode up to three, now its five streams of video).
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Have people not see what happened with Turing? Nvidia tried to jack prices up so not only could they sell older stock at RRP,but they could reset pricing to mining pricing. Now we had both the pandemic and mining together,with silly people paying way above RRP. So seeing that they want to have a second go at fixing RRPs as high as possible. This is the problem,with the whole endless margin growth model. The margins themselves,revenue,profits,etc are less important that quarter on quarter margin growth. Nvidia margins are higher than Apple.

AMD probably has realised this,so basically realised they could just tweak the RX6600 series and put a low effort dGPU out and still compete OK. If Nvidia had priced this series in line with even Ampere,it would have been:
1.)RTX4090(AD102)
2.)RTX4080(salvaged AD102)
3.)RTX4070TI(AD103)=RX7900XT(Navi 31). Not more than £600~£700 IMHO.
4.)RTX4070(salvaged AD103)=RX7800XT(salvaged Navi 31).Not more than £500~£600.
5.)RTX4060TI(salvaged AD103)=RX7700XT(salvage Navi 31 or Navi 32).Not more than £400~£450.
6.)RTX4060(AD104)=RX7600XT(salvaged Navi 32).Not more than £350.
5.)RTX4050(AD106)=RX7500XT(Navi 33)
6.)Laptop MX card(AD107)


Instead we got:
1.)RTX4090(AD102)
2.)RTX4080(AD103)=RX7900XTX(Navi 31)
3.)RTX4070TI(AD104)=RX7900XT(salvaged Navi 31)
4.)RTX4070(AD104)=RX7800XT(Navi 32?)
5.)RTX4070(AD106)=RX7700XT(salvaged Navi 32?)
6.)RTX4060TI(AD106)=RX7700(salvaged Navi 32 or full Navi 33?)
7.)RTX4060(AD106)=RX7600XT(Navi 33)

It's almost like they are both doing enough informally to make sure they can get good prices for their dGPUs.
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Pricing fixing from 2008, coming back to haunt us again.
 
throwaway4372 said:
Relax children, not everything needs to be an argument.
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:D
 
LtMatt said:
It doesn’t matter DLSS is laughably bad in MW2/Warzone no one (sane) uses it anyway. Game is not at all demanding either so no logical reason to use it unless you love blur and lost detail.
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I use DLSS quality mode in MW2 on a 4K monitor and it looks good to me, no blur. I use it to increase my 1% low FPS to 120 which is a perfectly logical reason.
 
Eddie99 said:
I use DLSS quality mode in MW2 on a 4K monitor and it looks good to me, no blur. I use it to increase my 1% low FPS to 120 which is a perfectly logical reason.
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COD games are blurry without image reconstruction. Adding dlss just makes the image softer and more blurry than it is by default. Pro tip for you, disable it. Use FidelityFXCAS 50-100% depending on your preference. Not only will this reduce the soft image and blur, it’ll make spotting enemies easier at all ranges.

I’m sure this will fall on deaf ears, but it’s what some of the higher level players do like Fr33thy.
 
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the recent call of duty games all look extremely ugly regardless of setting so the best option is to set everything to low to 1) improve fps and 2) reduce as much of the ugly crap as possible 3) make spotting enemies easier
 
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LtMatt said:
COD games are blurry without image reconstruction. Adding dlss just makes the image softer and more blurry than it is by default. Pro tip for you, disable it. Use FidelityFXCAS 50-100% depending on your preference. Not only will this reduce the soft image and blur, it’ll make spotting enemies easier at all ranges.

I’m sure this will fall on deaf ears, but it’s what some of the higher level players do like Fr33thy.
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Mine isn't blurry with DLSS. Apparently it can look bad if you leave on depth of field, motion blur and film grain, but I had all of these disabled anyway as they degrade the image quality. It can also look bad if you're using DLSS at lower resolutions because it was really designed for 4K screens. I have a 4070 Ti which is no slouch in this game beating a 3090 Ti by 9.4%, but even with all settings on low it wouldn't be enough to keep the 1% lows around 120. I have most settings on low except for textures, shadows, and a few other things which have a minimal impact on FPS.
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