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No depression here, just amusement that we live in a time where a GFX card costs more than the entire cost of the average full gaming system lol. I suppose that is depressing to think about...
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No depression here, just amusement that we live in a time where a GFX card costs more than the entire cost of the average full gaming system lol. I suppose that is depressing to think about...
Can we be confident that the prices will be half though, well comparing against a 4090 especially. The 4090 is cheaper than the 3090/Ti were, whilst offering 2-3x better performance and better efficiency/thermals. But can we expect the same again with the 5090? I fully expect anything below the 5090 to continue the pricing trend set by the 4080/4070 range as Nvidia have stated as such that lower prices are now off the table.
A used 4090 in 18 months time however, now that would be a juicy buy assuming used prices do come down.
Goes some way in explaining the 300% plusWe will see I guess. Maybe they will want to shift more volume this time and if so they will need to do a lot better.
If they carry on like this many will go console route. I won't, but it just means they won't see as much of my money.
AV1 was 89fps and HEVC was 50fps. I noticed AV1 doesn't slow down with the slowest preset so it might not be working correctly and could be why HEVC was better. When I lowered the bitrate to 10 Mb/s it was hard to choose between AV1 and HEVC so it's not all bad, and both were clearly better than NVEnc h264.Bit weird, I've been hearing all this stuff about av1 being the 'saviour' for low files sizes etc keeping good quality but to me at least it's the worst one of the two at the same file size/bitrate....based on your images (and I'm sure there will be others with different outcomes) the marketing is more about saving money from paying royalties...
Was there a difference in the amount of time it spent encoding?
You're right in the fact it could be down to the hardware/software integration at this point with everything being quite new (think it was similar with nvenc when first added) but considering how hard it's being pushed you'd have thought it would be fairly far along before being added... although I did read av1 is only now being added to ffmpeg etc which might be part of it.
I'll likely get a 5090.
Similar performance will be half price in around 18 months time (and time flies). It will run cooler, quieter and need less juice. Will grab it then probably. In the meantime most my games are running 5160x2160 anyways so no issues.
Can we be confident that the prices will be half though, well comparing against a 4090 especially. The 4090 is cheaper than the 3090/Ti were, whilst offering 2-3x better performance and better efficiency/thermals. But can we expect the same again with the 5090? I fully expect anything below the 5090 to continue the pricing trend set by the 4080/4070 range as Nvidia have stated as such that lower prices are now off the table.
A used 4090 in 18 months time however, now that would be a juicy buy assuming used prices do come down.
3x the fps but most of them are fake and the msrp isnt real (for 3000 series)55-65% better depending on the game from a 3090, not 2-3x unless you are classing DLSS3 as a real performance increase which it is not.
3x the fps but most of them are fake and the msrp isnt real (for 3000 series)
yeah you never pay attention to 1st party numbers cause they are always hand selected to show things inn their best lightDon't worry by the time 50xx series comes out they will have DLSS4 or some other tech name that adds more fake frames so they can say they are 10X faster than 40xxx series. Nvidia's reveal of the 40 series was disgusting and the performance claims were total BS in real world and very cherry picked with titles they sponsor or have a hand in. Real world uplift was really 55% on average from a 3090 to 4090.
Especially when the gap between console quality and PC quality is closer than everNo depression here, just amusement that we live in a time where a GFX card costs more than the entire cost of the average full gaming system lol. I suppose that is depressing to think about...
55-65% better depending on the game from a 3090 (TPU average increase was 55% from a 3090), not 2-3x unless you are classing DLSS3 as a real performance increase which it is not. Also 4090 is not cheaper than a 3090. 3090 FE £1400 msrp and 4090 FE £1600 a £200 increase and missing NVLINK, so a downgrade on pooling VRAM and CUDA cores and the games that actually support SLI native mGPU on 3090/ti's (not many but another loss for people that enjoy them games).
Less than ideal for everything now tbf, bottlenecking all the latest gen cards. They lasted well thenwhich was less than ideal for the lower resolution results.
Haha yeah well they look poor on benchmarks sure but still not exactly bad for gaming if you are happy with 100-200fps depending on the game. Mine was a lemon though and glad to have replaced it with the 5800X3DLess than ideal for everything now tbf, bottlenecking all the latest gen cards. They lasted well then![]()
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Yup the X3D is shirley the saviour of the AM4 platform for higher-end gayming.Haha yeah well they look poor on benchmarks sure but still not exactly bad for gaming if you are happy with 100-200fps depending on the game. Mine was a lemon though and glad to have replaced it with the 5800X3D![]()