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I have an RTX3060TI myself. The RTX4060TI is really an RTX3050 replacement,so despite Nvidia adding cache like AMD does,it can only do so much at higher resolutions.
Oh another thing AMD did that got copied that gets glossed over.
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I have an RTX3060TI myself. The RTX4060TI is really an RTX3050 replacement,so despite Nvidia adding cache like AMD does,it can only do so much at higher resolutions.
Oh another thing AMD did that got copied that gets glossed over.![]()
The names do matter as clearly Nvidia are trying to pass off lower end products as higher end ones and even charging a premium on top of last gens prices.Can we stop arguing (again) about what each card 'should' be called, before someone has an aneurysm.
The names don't set the prices anyway, it's irrelevant.
The names do matter as clearly Nvidia are trying to pass off lower end products as higher end ones and even charging a premium on top of last gens prices.
AD102(608MM2) from GA102(628MM2): 76.3 billion transistors from 28.3 billion transistors,ie,2.69x jump.AD102=98MB cache.
RTX4090 is an 89% salvage of the AD102 and the RTX3090TI is the full GA102.
AD103(379MM2) from GA102(628MM2):45.9 billion transistors from 28.3 billion transistors,ie,1.62x jump.
RTX4080 uses a fully enabled chip.
AD104(295MM2) from GA102(628MM2):35.8 billion transistors from 28.3 billion transistors,ie,1.27x jump.RTX4070TI uses a fully enabled chip.
It is totally relevant. People haven't learnt anything from Pascal V1,when Nvidia tried the same trick.Because by passing off lower end products as higher end ones,it means the percentage transistor jump is lower than at the top.
I don't even understand how people cannot realise this.
I can. It begins with the mindshare excusing everything saying the companies are not charities.. (after they have been milking the mining booms and now the AI booms in plain sight). People are waking up, just very slowly.
But they do set expectations and people who expect a certain thing also expect to pay a certain amount for that thing, if a VW Golf has the GTI label i expect to pay GTI money and get GTI performance, not to pay GTI money and get TSI performance.The names don't set the prices anyway, it's irrelevant.
You saw the test of the RTX3080 12GB against the RTX4070 12GB I posted above? Similar speed cores,but because the RTX3080 has much more memory bandwidth,it is upto 20% faster in Cyberpunk 2077 with RT.
Its the utter contempt these companies show to PCMR,who has made them billions of USD in profits. I don't know why PCMR defends these companies. The whole bunch of them are chancers! There used to be a time loyal customers used to be rewarded. Now loyal customer=mug. Its happening everywhere.
There were people literally laughing at the planned obsolescence references not long ago and now its came home to roost (again).
You've got that all wrong with the 3080 mate, it's totally fine you just have to turn on DLSS and that keeps it relevant and it's still way better than everything!Well they were warned about it... A reason a 3080 10GB was £650... and a 12GB version was £1000+ and with no real MSRP and a 3080ti was £1200 with same 12GB.
The 3080 10GB was great value on day one and 1-2 years later the skeletons in the closet were clearly showing to the people that didn't realise the card had planned obsolescence written all over it from day 1. Same with the 8GB cards sadly the 3070ti,3070,3060ti all good cards with way too little vram for the time.
Anyways we have been threw this enough now with VRAM and the reality is now out there so anyone arguing otherwise is well living in a different world from reality of what these companies are doing to their customers and how they make sure to make you update sooner rather than later..
You've got that all wrong with the 3080 mate, it's totally fine you just have to turn on DLSS and that keeps it relevant and it's still way better than everything!![]()
Too busy with software tricks instead of adding more hardware... Lets see how long they can carry on that way.
The 3080 10GB was great value on day one and 1-2 years later the skeletons in the closet were clearly showing to the people that didn't realise the card had planned obsolescence written all over it from day 1. Same with the 8GB cards sadly the 3070ti,3070,3060ti all good cards with way too little vram for the time.