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NVIDIA 4000 Series

At times they do yes.

But this time it's Nvidia, I'm actually wondering why it omitted the new DP port.
I was meaning currently.

From what I understand their efficiency isn't great, their RT/PT performance is lacking, their upscaling and frame gen are behind. You could argue their power connector is out of date (but in this case it might not be so bad). But they have DP 2.0 and extra VRAM so all is forgiven?
 
He can spend what ever he wants. But can't defend out dated tech by the semantics he is using and his own specific criteria.
It can be fairly argued that at this cost it should have DP2.0, but I didn't even know it used DP 1.4 until it was mentioned after the fact on this very forum, which I then looked up and thought "oh" and then carried on with life as I knew I wouldn't be having a display which had DP2.0 anyway as my eyes were and still are firmly fixed on 34" ultrawide and OLED so it wasn't even in the top 10 list of things I cared about when buying a new GPU and really, still isn't and won't be for some time yet by which point the 4090 will be old news no doubt.

Yes I will no doubt get the next gen of QD-OLED ultrawide, and it will likely have DP2.0 with 340Hz at 3440x1440 (and still playing 5160x2160 DLDSR for games) or 240Hz at 5120x2160 - But again that's next year most likely when my current screen's warranty runs out so I'll still have the 4090, but as earlier noted, there aren't any games that can run at such high fps anyway so I'll just happily play along at the 100-139fps I currently do in Gsync remaining care-free about not having DP2.0.
 
It can be fairly argued that at this cost it should have DP2.0, but I didn't even know it used DP 1.4 until it was mentioned after the fact on this very forum, which I then looked up and thought "oh" and then carried on with life as I knew I wouldn't be having a display which had DP2.0 anyway as my eyes were and still are firmly fixed on 34" ultrawide and OLED so it wasn't even in the top 10 list of things I cared about when buying a new GPU and really, still isn't and won't be for some time yet by which point the 4090 will be old news no doubt.

Yes I will no doubt get the next gen of QD-OLED ultrawide, and it will likely have DP2.0 with 340Hz at 3440x1440 (and still playing 5160x2160 DLDSR for games) or 240Hz at 5120x2160 - But again that's next year most likely when my current screen's warranty runs out so I'll still have the 4090, but as earlier noted, there aren't any games that can run at such high fps anyway so I'll just happily play along at the 100-139fps I currently do in Gsync remaining care-free about not having DP2.0.

Seems your 4090 will need upgrading sooner rather than later mrk. I'll take it of your hands for a three figure sum next year :D

On second thought, rather have a nice shiny 5070, even if it is a bit slower :p:cry:
 
Ignoring the Desktop environment its self there are practically an infinite number of game that can be pushed to 240 Hz at 4K, not just with the 4090 but any high end modern GPU.

And yes you can do it with modern AAA titles using DLSS and FG, isn't High FPS what these things are for? How is it that for this DLSS / FG no longer matter?

And i never would have thought that for people spending the most money, by far on the halo GPU of all they would have an [Insert Midlands Accent] "That'll do" philosophy to them.



Of course its usable.

Typo, meant to write "useless"
 
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Can't take that kind of heat!

Where is that list of games Humbug? we are waiting tick tock

Will be like the argument of "there's hardly any RT games!", "vast majority of games are still raster only!!!" and turns out, their only metric is looking at games from years ago when RT just came out or even before then or all the random crap/indie titles that gets uploaded to steam are the only ones which count :cry: :D
 
Will be like the argument of "there's hardly any RT games!", "vast majority of games are still raster only!!!" and turns out, their only metric is looking at games from years ago when RT just came out or even before then or all the random crap/indie titles that gets uploaded to steam are the only ones which count :cry: :D
It's very easy for us on this hardware biased forum,to get into a bit of an echo chamber of what "most" games really need. We tend to like playing shiny,new games and always want an excuse to buy new hardware and turn up as many settings. Most of us play at 1440p to 4K when 1080p is still the most common resolution.

Most people still play games at 1080p. People suddenly don't drop all the "old" games especially when "old" games get updates in content over the lifespans. Even some of the popular new games run OK on less than high end hardware after a few updates. This doesn't include a lot of the online games like GTA:Online,Elder Scrolls:Online,WoW,etc which also despite updates are still old but popular games. Even Fortnite is technically an "old" game despite getting RT support.

An RTX3060,which is still the most popular dGPU can play most of the below top40 popular games at 1080p.

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As an avid user and poster in this echo chamber, I speak for everyone, but mostly myself, when I say IDGAF about entry level gamers, IDGAF about 1080p gaming and IDGAF about 3060's

The reality is that most PC games are not going to be sustained by PCMR hardware enthusiasts on tech forums in terms of volume of sales or revenue. It's going to be sustained by the enormous number of "average" gamers and consoles all running average to mediocre hardware - just look at the top40 games. I would hazard a guess,they could be run at 1440p with some settings turn down and with DLSS/FSR enabled too.

So as much as we like to argue,the reality is very different. We like hardware as a hobby. We buy tech for tech's sake.

OcUK has 170000 members. A large percentage of those members don't frequently post,and might not even post in the CPU and dGPU sections. OcUK is still one of the biggest tech forums in the world yet you are lucky to have a few 1000 members and random viewers on the forum at any one time. How many of them don't even post in this section but all the other sections?
 
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