I don't really think they have. The entire reason that Ampere was so "cheap" in terms of MSRP is that Turing was a relative flop because of its ridiculous pricing. It certainly wasn't out of the goodness of Jensen's cold, black heart. And despite the insistence of the cryptobros that mining has nothing to do with GPU prices being so high, it's funny how prices have fallen sharply and stock is plentiful now that the bubble has deflated a fair bit. Mining has been the primary cause of GPU pricing over the past year and a bit, which has been well illustrated by Hardware Unboxed's monthly updates showing that card prices have been perfectly in sync with the rises and falls in crypto profitability. Yes, many desperate gamers have had to overpay for a card too due to not being able to get anything at all otherwise, but I think most of those are one-off purchases due to exceptional circumstances and never again. I don't see that becoming a sustainable thing for these companies going forwards. Everyone involved in the supply chain is going to have to accept that the party's over at some point. If Lovelace arrives at Turing pricing then I expect it to get the same reception, especially with most people now worse-off. And that's before even considering the potential for a total collapse of GPU mining by then and a flood of cheap used cards providing competition.
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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Prices will be almost back to noemal when the 4000 sweries hits so I reckon they will be cheaper than todays prices.
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I also think miners will be dumping cards soon because mining isn't profitable with the Electricity prices so high.
Looking at years to get money back just now
Looking at years to get money back just now
You know the rumours are BS when kopeite comes out and says RTX4090 is a 850w GPU...
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lovelace-gpus-september-launch-upto-850w-tdp-rumor/
It's total nonsense, you would need LN2 to cool it, no one has ever released such a product which cannot be used with water or air cooling
I'll go out on a limb and say the leaker saw the specs and the 4090 has double the number of cores so he thinks ah ok must be double power draw too
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lovelace-gpus-september-launch-upto-850w-tdp-rumor/
It's total nonsense, you would need LN2 to cool it, no one has ever released such a product which cannot be used with water or air cooling
I'll go out on a limb and say the leaker saw the specs and the 4090 has double the number of cores so he thinks ah ok must be double power draw too
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WAIT - as if you buy a card now it's gonna be yestatech soon, secondly, if you buy used likely mined to the high heavens.
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I don't understand why everyone is so okay with the disgusting pricing? Why are people accepting paying double the price of it's original value. I know there's demand, but still. It's beyond belief why people aren't campaigning against this. All the retailers are involved, it makes me sad. Will they be better or worse next gen?
Price is being driven by the general public, the scalpers. Retailers could sell at msrp, but the items would be scalped with the consumer ending up with a 2nd hand GPU with no warranty.
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So that makes it okay for retailers to scalp us instead? People can decide whether or not if they buy from some scumlord on eBay, but when retailers do it, you have no choice.
You can be scalped with or without warranty, which do you prefer?
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I'd rather not get ripped off on the hardware, I wouldn't care about the warranty
That's why scalpers do so well.
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But that's not the point, I wouldn't PAY a scalper in the first place, I could literally buy one right now if I wanted too. But I refuse to give them the time of day.
I'm still a grateful owner of a 1080Ti, playing at 3440x1440. And for the games that I play, it's still performing well. I've been sorely tempted by a 3080 but I've missed all of the FE drops and there's no way I'm paying over that, not this late in the cycle. My current plan is to wait a few months and see what happens. Crypto is currently on a downward trend, energy prices are skyrocketing, Intel is on the horizon, and later this year is a whole new generation.
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There's an awful lot of people waiting for next gen in 7 months, which will ensure the next set of cards will be incredibly difficult to get at launch.
Right now is still a dreadful time to buy though. 3000 series cards, which are already falling in price right now, will really start plummeting as the release of the next cards come closer and they just stop selling.
Right now is still a dreadful time to buy though. 3000 series cards, which are already falling in price right now, will really start plummeting as the release of the next cards come closer and they just stop selling.
Ex-mining is okay if the price is right. Less than two years ago you had Polaris cards from the last mining boom being sold off for peanuts on Ebay. I bought an RX 570 for £56 in March 2020 (from a seller unloading thousands of Sapphire cards ranging from the RX 460 to the RX 590) and used it as my main card for about six months. Then sold it on, which was of course a massive mistake in hindsight. If you could buy a 5700 XT for £56 on Ebay a year from now, I think that'd be a pretty good deal, mined on or not.
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People love Nvidia.