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AMD Cuts Down Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Production As Demand Drops Like a Rock
AMD reportedly scaled down production of its Ryzen 7000 series desktop processors in response to bleak demand across the PC hardware industry. Wccftech claims to have read an internal company document calling for reduced supply to the channel as market response to the Ryzen 7000-series is weak...www.techpowerup.com
production reduced and prices will come down next. AMD4 motherboards and even the intel boards are silly prices for the ddr5 pcie 5 boards.
That IMO is the main issue with the new 7000 chips. I think they are brilliant and super fast and reasoanbly priced but when I price up the ddr5 memory and look at £700 mobo, it starts and became more money than the 4090 was!!
No I know people who manually refreshed and saw the buy now button and got one. You just had to get lucky. But I honestly thin k they only had 50 cards, maybe 100 tops. Lets say they was 5000 online looking to buy, odds are that your f5 refresh coincides with stock showing up is very slim.
Soldato
Glad you said that, because it was something I was considering doing.
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Alright mr money bags.
Fr tho I say this but also have a 55" LG oled and an alienware QD-OLED
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I miraculously managed to bag one by repeatedly hitting F5 just before/at 2pm. Saw it say buy and proceeded through checkout.
While others saw it instantly say OoS.
^ That's what happened to me during the 30 series launch and if it happened again I'd have just given up on this gen aswell.
Buying a new GPU has become an absolute **** show.
You've been around long enough to hear people say this with ddr2. And ddr3. And ddr4.
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the framechasers vid talked abt ddr5 being better for single player games.. i didnt look at the video in detail just the headline, but whatever that maybe x670 motherboard prices are in the clown territory
Soldato
They weren’t locked at 120 with a 12900k?
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What hot spot temps are deemed normal these days, My Ichill X3 after 5 loops of Timespy extreme default fan curve and I am seeing almost a 15c delta and after an hour of gaming or so say for eg in A Plague Tale Requiem I have seen as high as 90c hotspot with core at around 76c.
I can't help but feel mine hasn't been assembled properly compared to some results I have seen, for eg some FE and some AIB reviews I have seen from some of the current 4090's available, Some have less than a 8-9c delta between both.
Is it worth messing about and repasting or does that void warranty these days, I don't really want to mess with it in all fairness I am just concerned as currently as we are approaching winter here and it is currently cool in this room on a well ventilated case, O11 Dynamic Xl with 12 Corsair QL 120's, 3 bottom intake, 3 Side intake, 1 rear exhaust and 3 top exhaust.
I can't help but feel mine hasn't been assembled properly compared to some results I have seen, for eg some FE and some AIB reviews I have seen from some of the current 4090's available, Some have less than a 8-9c delta between both.
Is it worth messing about and repasting or does that void warranty these days, I don't really want to mess with it in all fairness I am just concerned as currently as we are approaching winter here and it is currently cool in this room on a well ventilated case, O11 Dynamic Xl with 12 Corsair QL 120's, 3 bottom intake, 3 Side intake, 1 rear exhaust and 3 top exhaust.
Caporegime
At what power limit? A picture of the full GPU HWINFO64 stats would help.What hot spot temps are deemed normal these days, My Ichill X3 after 5 loops of Timespy extreme default fan curve and I am seeing almost a 15c delta and after an hour of gaming or so say for eg in A Plague Tale Requiem I have seen as high as 90c hotspot with core at around 76c.
I can't help but feel mine hasn't been assembled properly compared to some results I have seen, for eg some FE and some AIB reviews I have seen from some of the current 4090's available, Some have less than a 8-9c delta between both.
Is it worth messing about and repasting or does that void warranty these days, I don't really want to mess with it in all fairness I am just concerned as currently as we are approaching winter here and it is currently cool in this room on a well ventilated case, O11 Dynamic Xl with 12 Corsair QL 120's, 3 bottom intake, 3 Side intake, 1 rear exhaust and 3 top exhaust.
Soldato
Strange I’m locked at 120 with no DLSS at 4k with only 70/80% gpu usage with a 12700k, lows of perhaps 110 fps on a rare occassion in BF2042, MW2 SP and Tales requiem.
Just listened to Cutress' latest video where he estimated the cost of a Ryzen 9 7950X so i thought I'd do the same for the AD102 (used in the 4090) and my back of the fag packet maths came up with $288.
If anyone has more accurate numbers they're welcome to give it a go themselves (web archive link to calculator) as i couldn't find exact dimensions for AD102 so assumed it was 24.5mm x 24.5mm (600mm sq) and used the $17k per wafer costs Ian cited in the video. I also don't know what the costs are for GDDR6X (or even the number / sizes they're using).
Like i said it's back of a fag packet maths but i thought it an interesting exercise to estimate the actual cost of a 4090.
If anyone has more accurate numbers they're welcome to give it a go themselves (web archive link to calculator) as i couldn't find exact dimensions for AD102 so assumed it was 24.5mm x 24.5mm (600mm sq) and used the $17k per wafer costs Ian cited in the video. I also don't know what the costs are for GDDR6X (or even the number / sizes they're using).
Like i said it's back of a fag packet maths but i thought it an interesting exercise to estimate the actual cost of a 4090.
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Tempted to switch to a 13600K from my 12700K then, a drop in P cores but overall for gaming it looks like it may be the stronger cpu (and poss clock higher).Nope, as posted I saw big gains in minimum FPS values in a few titles
Me too, I am trying to resist it but I caved and bought a 4090 and feel I may get a bit more from the card.
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Same my dear stairlift Don.
6 P cores at a tasty 5.5Ghz+ would be sweet
Yup, must resist
Soldato
Was it an FE Stanners?
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That's at normal 100% power target, This card doesn't go over 100% and stock clocks also.
Memory temps are very good compared to what the 30x series were but for some reason I can't help but feel Inno have used maybe stiff memory pads hence better memory temps than core temps, I know the issues from the 3080 I had trying to get the right balance of viscosity of memory thermal pads if they were too hard core temp wouldn't make full proper contact and it looks like this is what I am seeing here.
I mean it's not the worst considering it's stock fan profile which is low on this Inno but I do these delta readings should be a little closer than what I am getting.