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NVIDIA 4000 Series

humbug said:
You do know that "G-Sync" is just a name at this point, just about all screens these days are actually AMD Free Sync, including those with G-Sync written on them, but because of the Nvidia mindshare you think AMD need a G-Sync.
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I know, not everyone checks that though...

Personally I don't care about G Sync or Free Sync. I do care about RT and DLSS.
 
Nexus18 said:
I'm expecting rdna 3 to be far more focused on the pc sector for 2 reasons alone:

- no new consoles that amd need to focus on, they were supplying 80% of their stock to consoles hence why their stock was a hundred times worse than nvidia
- their ces etc. events at the time only spending like 1 minute on the pc gaming space and rest of the time was on their partnership deals across various sectors

Clearly RDNA 2 was far more catered towards the current gen consoles, they don't have that holding them back now.


BTW, which monitor are you referring to humbug?

As if you mean the first monitor from the first link, it is indeed a gsync ultimate monitor:


But either way, you have the official nvidia list there for your question, which I would like to think nvidia have got right......
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gpuerrilla said:
Quite right! I mean I usually buy AMD when they are near enough on performance but were 20% cheaper. In fact many a generation AMD were not close so they had to be cheaper and only the enthusiast community through tweaking and pushing the card made it closer in performance.

The problem with AMD now is if they are very close but charging more than nvidia, I wont be buying. Take for example the 6800XT commanding near £1000 where it was way overpriced, everyone in such a predicament chose the 3080 for that cards features and comfort.
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I agree, I've used cards from both camps and always AMD when they performed at least as well or better at the same price but these days AMD's bid to be a premium GPU manufacturer sees them pricing about the same for slightly less performance and features. They need to be £/$100 cheaper at the same performance if they want to gain market share especially if lacking comparable RT performance or DLSS.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Yes even the 6700's were pushing £900 for the AIB models. You have to remember the cards were not great at mining, and they were not great at ray tracing. So your next model up was the 6800 which was non existent, then the XT which was £1000 for long periods. Now when prices are like that, you cannot blame folk for sticking to mindshare and playing safe spending £1100 for a 3080 AIB.

We are not talking about FE drops which were spacious and a clusterfest of focus. This was cards that were in stock in between the FE drops. Now we know that if the UK had a reseller and were listing cards for MSRP drops you could pick up a 6800XT for its £600 but that was impossible as AMD had no UK reseller...
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Not having a UK reseller unlike Nvidia is definitely hurting AMD and I don't understand why it's so difficult. The asking prices of the 6700/6800/6800XT from AIBs was ludicrous especially given the disparity in RT performance and the lack of a DLSS equivalent.
 
Jacky60 said:
Not having a UK reseller unlike Nvidia is definitely hurting AMD and I don't understand why it's so difficult.
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I agree, but you would think that if it was worth their while, it would have been sorted ages ago. It leads to the question whether the UK market is worth it for AMD reference? Just send the chip to aibs and let them deal with the brexit importing issues.

Could harm them reputation ally in the long run, but the financial impact might not be massive in the short term.
 
Bill Turnip said:
I agree, but you would think that if it was worth their while, it would have been sorted ages ago. It leads to the question whether the UK market is worth it for AMD reference? Just send the chip to aibs and let them deal with the brexit importing issues.

Could harm them reputation ally in the long run, but the financial impact might not be massive in the short term.
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Nothing to do with Brexit. They would have to import it to any country outside the country of manufacture :rolleyes:
 
True, but importing to Britain isn't the easiest thing at the moment, or it certainly wasn't at launch.

The question is whether it hurt them enough financially to act. We've seen the answer.
 
When did the UK AMD seller stop? And to be clear, I'm not on some pro or anti brexit march, just trying to find the reasons as to why the country was largely ignored in this instance.
 
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Bill Turnip said:
When did the UK AMD seller stop? And to be clear, I'm not on some pro or anti brexit march, just trying to find the reasons as to why the country was largely ig ores in this instance.
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AFAIK there never was a UK seller like we had for nvidia. In the US you could visit the site and directly buy as they were in stock.
 
Bill Turnip said:
Fair enough - never bought off of either nvidia or amd direct, so never knew. Find it amazing AMD never had a store, in which case.
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Oh I was gutted. Missed the first wave of nvidia drops, then the first wave of AMD drops from OcUK/a.n.other, so when I heard about no AMD reseller I picked up the next 30 series drop I could. Would have not minded a 6800 for around £600 but that was never a chance I got. Not sure why but I dont think it was Brexit as the sole reason unless I am mistaken.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Oh I was gutted. Missed the first wave of nvidia drops, then the first wave of AMD drops from OcUK/a.n.other, so when I heard about no AMD reseller I picked up the next 30 series drop I could. Would have not minded a 6800 for around £600 but that was never a chance I got. Not sure why but I dont think it was Brexit as the sole reason unless I am mistaken.
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Not claiming it was, but I've seen it mentioned a few times and got the impression that this was the first generation that was sold without a UK reseller. Seemed reasonable to infer that it was a contributing factor, but if there was never a UK seller, maybe not so.
 
I dont think anyone notable or influencer has covered the topic but it would actually we a worthy point to find out @Bill Turnip . The bigger channels seem to be in the U.S with HU in Oz.
 
Darujhistan said:
I just think the vast majority of people will just buy NV come what may. AMD know this and aren't going to try and win a very costly and long mindshare war by giving cards away.

You're average gamer doesn't give AMD cards a thought, they're not the cool "Gucci" brand. I know this having spoken to many people who are gamers but not enthusiasts, and 95% of them go straight to NV without a second thought.

That's just how it is.
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The vast majority will buy nvidia because AMD price matches Nvidias cards based on raster but offers less features. I like the strides AMD has made with RDNA2 but me to consider buying an AMD card at a similar price as an nvidia equivalent they either need better raster +20% or raster and featureset parity, failing that then they need to be cheaper.

Why would anyone pay the same price for an inferior product?
 
Joxeon said:
The vast majority will buy nvidia because AMD price matches Nvidias cards based on raster but offers less features. I like the strides AMD has made with RDNA2 but me to consider buying an AMD card at a similar price as an nvidia equivalent they either need better raster +20% or raster and featureset parity, failing that then they need to be cheaper.

Why would anyone pay the same price for an inferior product?
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Yep. Also resale will be easier on Nvidia cards too.

I used to almost always buy AMD until they went down the we are a premium product route. Charging same but offering less just does not do it for me. If they want to charge same or more they need to offer more.
 
Joxeon said:
The vast majority will buy nvidia because AMD price matches Nvidias cards based on raster but offers less features. I like the strides AMD has made with RDNA2 but me to consider buying an AMD card at a similar price as an nvidia equivalent they either need better raster +20% or raster and featureset parity, failing that then they need to be cheaper.

Why would anyone pay the same price for an inferior product?
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LOL 6950 XT is about £500 cheaper than 3090ti...

:D
 
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