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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Agree with your post.

What I am interested to see is the sweet spot from Ampere being the 3080, this time round is on a weaker sku. They may overclock the nuts out of it (hence power requirements) but at least they can come out of the gates with enough vram this time.

As for AMD, all they need to do is have outlets that can sell the reference models at the msrp. I can live with the trickle and fight for stock, but this gen we didnt even get a chance.

Yes moving parts in a monitor will mean another point of failure.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Agree with your post.

What I am interested to see is the sweet spot from Ampere being the 3080, this time round is on a weaker sku. They may overclock the nuts out of it (hence power requirements) but at least they can come out of the gates with enough vram this time.

As for AMD, all they need to do is have outlets that can sell the reference models at the msrp. I can live with the trickle and fight for stock, but this gen we didnt even get a chance.

Yes moving parts in a monitor will mean another point of failure.
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Well, the good news is that nobody had to deal with Digital River for AMD references models since the UK left the single market!

I actually had tried to order some memory direct from a large American company who despite having a RMA centre near Glasgow seemed to be using Digital River for fulfilment. And somehoe they had oversold this DDR4 when it was offer. Massively so - the deals sites there were people who had waiting over a month - so if AMD ever get an outlet sorted for reference models in the UK again, I hope they chose anyone but that lot.

Moving parts plus noise. A reason to game with headsets?
 
I think all monitors with a gsync module either have a heatsink or/and fan.

Agree I wouldn't be spending 4 figures on a "monitor" though, thankfully the AW qd-oled is/was a very reasonable price (especially considering first monitor with qd-oled tech), most got it for £750-900, mine cost me about £630 after all the discounts and cashback, cheaper than any other high end true HDR freesync or gsync monitor.

The fan noise seems to vary depending on what one you get, mine is pretty much silent unless I put my head right at the back of the display where as others say they can hear it over their pc. To say you would hear it over gaming scenarios without a headset is just hyperbole unless we examples showing otherwise?

Whilst that is true with regards to another item that could break, it's no more likely to fail than another display without fans/gsync module though, seen plenty of people with standard monitors, which have failed quicker than "gsync ultimate" monitors for other reasons i.e. pixel issues, backlight issues, flickering etc. And that is why you have warranty for when things do break.....
 
KompuKare said:
I actually had tried to order some memory direct from a large American company who despite having a RMA centre near Glasgow seemed to be using Digital River for fulfilment. And somehoe they had oversold this DDR4 when it was offer. Massively so - the deals sites there were people who had waiting over a month - so if AMD ever get an outlet sorted for reference models in the UK again, I hope they chose anyone but that lot.
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Yes I not heard good things from that outfit, we still wait for some insight into who/what AMD are doing this release. Maybe @Gibbo can shed some info on the GB relationship with this setup, I am not familiar with the whole retailer thing but there's no reason something should be in place for the new gen's coming in.
 
The 4090 this time seems far more of a distinct upgrade than the 3090 was last time. I will be aiming to pick one up at launch to fuel my VR needs.
 
Richdog said:
The 4090 this time seems far more of a distinct upgrade than the 3090 was last time. I will be aiming to pick one up at launch to fuel my VR needs.
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Was thinking the same, if those numbers are correct. Still a big IF though!
 
HRL said:
Was thinking the same, if those numbers are correct. Still a big IF though!
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I assume Nvidia learned from the last generation and know if you make a x080 too close to a x090 then everyone is going to go for the x080. If current rumours are true then it means that would be a reason and incentive to go for a 4090 other than "I can't get hold of a 4080 and have no other option".
 
Richdog said:
I assume Nvidia learned from the last generation and know if you make a x080 too close to a x090 then everyone is going to go for the x080. If current rumours are true then it means that would be a reason and incentive to go for a 4090 other than "I can't get hold of a 4080 and have no other option".
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not many people will go for a 4090 anyway at those watts, probably going the dark side with AMD if these specs are true...
 
And just when you thought you purchased the top tier NV card, they will release a 4090ti or Titan card so your no longer top dog any more lol nvidia policy never changes. then to follow an up rated 4080 card just to pee off the original 4080 owners.
 
arknor said:
lets hope those 4070 specs arent true what a stinker... 10gigs ram in 2022 almost 2023...
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Look on the bright side, they could've slapped 8 GB in it again... I'm guessing the segmentation is a lot more aggressive this time around so as to fit in the expected refresh (SUPER) line, something that wasn't necessary for Ampere.
 
arknor said:
not many people will go for a 4090 anyway at those watts, probably going the dark side with AMD if these specs are true...
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Speaking of watts, it seems that EVGA were a bit slow with their RTX 3090 Ti Kingpin but Computerbase now report
www.computerbase.de

RTX 3090 Ti Kingpin: EVGA verkauft das Topmodell nur mit 1.600-Watt-Netzteil

Fast ein halbes Jahr nach der Ankündigung verkauft EVGA nun die RTX 3090 Ti Kingpin – und zwar ausschließlich mit einem 1.600-Watt-Netzteil.
www.computerbase.de www.computerbase.de
that they finally have them in stock (presumably in their own store) but only in a bundle: with a 1600W PSU.

Now it could be that with mining on the wane they are having trouble shifting those PSUs, or it could be an omen of things to come and the bundle is aimed at those who buy now and want to take advantage of their step-program once the 4090 comes along.
 
arknor said:
not many people will go for a 4090 anyway at those watts, probably going the dark side with AMD if these specs are true...
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I will go for one and underclocking the card always saves a lot of power without sacrificing noticeable performance.
vapor matt said:
And just when you thought you purchased the top tier NV card, they will release a 4090ti or Titan card so your no longer top dog any more lol nvidia policy never changes. then to follow an up rated 4080 card just to pee off the original 4080 owners.
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This is nothing new and has happened for generations. Generally speaking buying the fastest card at launch keeps you happy until the next launch.

arknor said:
yea probably £1400 or something ridiculous
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That was already the RTX3090 launch MSRP back in October 2020? https://www.eurogamer.net/nvidia-ge...ficial recommended retail prices,/£1400/€1500.
 
Nexus18 said:
Agree I wouldn't be spending 4 figures on a "monitor" though, thankfully the AW qd-oled is/was a very reasonable price (especially considering first monitor with qd-oled tech), most got it for £750-900, mine cost me about £630 after all the discounts and cashback, cheaper than any other high end true HDR freesync or gsync monitor.
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Really? Of all the computer bits and pieces you can buy the monitor is the thing you spend the most time looking at. They last multiple GPU and CPU refreshes, very often over 5 years of life in them, sometime more than 10, occassionally over 20 (my brothers old Amiga 1024 monitor from 1986 lasted well into the late 2000's/early 2010's). Bad ones can give you eyestrain and often have dead pixels in the worst places.

A monitor is the one thing you should spend big on above all others. Writing this on my gorgeous LG CX 48" OLED right now (£1,500 new in summer 2020 I think) and loving it.
 
Marak said:
Really? Of all the computer bits and pieces you can buy the monitor is the thing you spend the most time looking at. They last multiple GPU and CPU refreshes, very often over 5 years of life in them, sometime more than 10, occassionally over 20 (my brothers old Amiga 1024 monitor from 1986 lasted well into the late 2000's/early 2010's). Bad ones can give you eyestrain and often have dead pixels in the worst places.

A monitor is the one thing you should spend big on above all others. Writing this on my gorgeous LG CX 48" OLED right now (£1,500 new in summer 2020 I think) and loving it.
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Monitors are one of the most historically overpriced and underperforming pieces of equipment you can buy with £1000 monitors often performing little better than ones costing half or even a third of the price. Also you do not really have a monitor, you have an OLED TV you are using as a monitor, and it is way too big for comfortable use on most peoples desks. ;)
 
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