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sewerino26 said:
If i can ask. Someone testing 4090 with 13900K ,on 1080P,1440P and 4k in Watch Dogs Legion ( skip 2:53 ). On 1080P its v low gpu usage. The same with DLSS enabled. Its bootleneck or game engine issue? Look,thx:

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sewerino26 said:
If i can ask. Someone testing 4090 with 13900K ,on 1080P,1440P and 4k in Watch Dogs Legion ( skip 2:53 ). On 1080P its v low gpu usage. The same with DLSS enabled. Its bootleneck or game engine issue? Look,thx:

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Come on dude, you don't know this basic stuff yet? Generally speaking (ie: on average):

Lower game resolution (eg: 1080p) = lower GPU usage and higher CPU usage.
Higher game resolution (eg: 4k) = higher GPU usage and lower CPU usage.

It would take you about 2 minutes to Google that.
 
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rexehuk said:
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Lol. On your bike Nvidia.
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MSRP is £1249 I think for 4080 16G, so that is as cheap as they get.
I personally feel the 4090 is better value as it is so much quicker.

Expect to see most AIB's probably around £1349 - £1599 on 4080 16G based on current cost available.
 
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Gibbo said:
MSRP is £1249 I think for 4080 16G, so that is as cheap as they get.
I personally feel the 4090 is better value as it is so much quicker.

Expect to see most AIB's probably around £1349 - £1599 on 4080 16G based on current cost available.
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The 4080 pricing is an absolute disgrace and clearly (and cynically) designed to make buying the 4090 as appealing as possible.
 
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Gibbo said:
MSRP is £1249 I think for 4080 16G, so that is as cheap as they get.
I personally feel the 4090 is better value as it is so much quicker.

Expect to see most AIB's probably around £1349 - £1599 on 4080 16G based on current cost available.
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That's a bit nuts, do you not worry yourself @Gibbo about these kind of gpu prices being sustained?

I've been gaming for 30 odd years, and I'm at the point where I certainly cannot justify these prices.

Given a few years ago with the 1000 series I got a 1070 for £400 or so new.

Without flex I make 3/4x the avg household income by myself, and I cannot justify these GPUs, so who can?
 
Gibbo said:
MSRP is £1249 I think for 4080 16G, so that is as cheap as they get.
I personally feel the 4090 is better value as it is so much quicker.

Expect to see most AIB's probably around £1349 - £1599 on 4080 16G based on current cost available.
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Tough sell on the "premium" models of the 4080 then, it's going to be so much better value buying the cheapest possible 4090 than a premium 4080 by the looks of it
 
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rexehuk said:
That's a bit nuts, do you not worry yourself @Gibbo about these kind of gpu prices being sustained?

I've been gaming for 30 odd years, and I'm at the point where I certainly cannot justify these prices.

Given a few years ago with the 1000 series I got a 1070 for £400 or so new.

Without flex I make 3/4x the avg household income by myself, and I cannot justify these GPUs, so who can?
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Do I think graphic cards have got silly expensive? Yes!

However there have always been flagship products that cost 1k plus in the GPU arena and though lower cost product are less a focus these days both AMD and NVIDIA still offer graphics cards for £200 that can handle most games at HD on medium settings.

Sorry to put the car analogy here, but not everyone needs a Lamborghini to commute, but some people choose to drop the 300k a new one cost even though they don't need it and it is fair to say people don't need a 4090 or even a 4080, the simple fact is they are luxury items and as such cost a lot. Whereas a Skoda Citigo will do the job for far less.

But yes things have got expensive but the actual sales performance seems to be still growing if we take out the blip that was Covid, but growth is still happening ever at current GPU prices.
 
Gibbo said:
Do I think graphic cards have got silly expensive? Yes!

However there have always been flagship products that cost 1k plus in the GPU arena and though lower cost product are less a focus these days both AMD and NVIDIA still offer graphics cards for £200 that can handle most games at HD on medium settings.

Sorry to put the car analogy here, but not everyone needs a Lamborghini to commute, but some people choose to drop the 300k a new one cost even though they don't need it and it is fair to say people don't need a 4090 or even a 4080, the simple fact is they are luxury items and as such cost a lot. Whereas a Skoda Citigo will do the job for far less.

But yes things have got expensive but the actual sales performance seems to be still growing if we take out the blip that was Covid, but growth is still happening ever at current GPU prices.
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Out of interest, is the 4090 selling better than the 3090 did?
 
Grim5 said:
Tough sell on the "premium" models of the 4080 then, it's going to be so much better value buying the cheapest possible 4090 than a premium 4080 by the looks of it
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Jensen knows this... at least until people buy up all of his Ampere stash!
 
Gibbo said:
Do I think graphic cards have got silly expensive? Yes!

However there have always been flagship products that cost 1k plus in the GPU arena and though lower cost product are less a focus these days both AMD and NVIDIA still offer graphics cards for £200 that can handle most games at HD on medium settings.

Sorry to put the car analogy here, but not everyone needs a Lamborghini to commute, but some people choose to drop the 300k a new one cost even though they don't need it and it is fair to say people don't need a 4090 or even a 4080, the simple fact is they are luxury items and as such cost a lot. Whereas a Skoda Citigo will do the job for far less.

But yes things have got expensive but the actual sales performance seems to be still growing if we take out the blip that was Covid, but growth is still happening ever at current GPU prices.
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That blows my mind a little in this economy too.

Maybe it's just me but the fact you can buy deliveroo now on klarna does raise the question how much is being spent on credit.

Out of interest how many of your sales are cash vs deferred credit? Totally understand if you can't say!

I'm not even sure what GPU I'm waiting for now... Post November 5th I guess I'll see what happens.
 
Gibbo said:
Do I think graphic cards have got silly expensive? Yes!

However there have always been flagship products that cost 1k plus in the GPU arena and though lower cost product are less a focus these days both AMD and NVIDIA still offer graphics cards for £200 that can handle most games at HD on medium settings.

Sorry to put the car analogy here, but not everyone needs a Lamborghini to commute, but some people choose to drop the 300k a new one cost even though they don't need it and it is fair to say people don't need a 4090 or even a 4080, the simple fact is they are luxury items and as such cost a lot. Whereas a Skoda Citigo will do the job for far less.

But yes things have got expensive but the actual sales performance seems to be still growing if we take out the blip that was Covid, but growth is still happening ever at current GPU prices.
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The 4080 isn't a flagship though, it's only got 59% of the 4090 cuda cores. Under 60% is what every generation of **70 class cards have had and they usually cost around £5-600 so using the car analogy nvidia is trying to sell us a Skoda Citigo for Lambo money.
 
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