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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Greebo said:
Plan going forward is to do some more testing tonight and then strip the block down and retry. If it doesnt improve I will get in touch with EK and see what they say

Guy on reddit was maxing out at 47C so definitely something wrong with mine. He has his in the same loop as his cpu, my cpu has its own loop.

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I used the online instructions on my ipad while I was doing it and didnt read anything that shipped with the card.

Seems like I am meant to use 0.8mm and 1mm on the gpu side instead of 1mm and 1.5mm that the online instructions say! You would expect the online instructions to be more accurate.

And no idea which pads are 0.8mm and 1mm as they arent marked and difficult to tell from looking.

GRRRRRRRRRRR

EDIt Convinced a never saw a separate sheet of paper about the change in pad thicknesses. Will double check.
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You can check the temps without applying thermal pads on coils - these arent neccessary(if anything, they are detrimental to whine) - they are not applied originally.
 
They have such big coolers on them (450w) personally I'm happy with the performance as is idle at 25-30 gaming 60-65. The only reason I can see to mod is if you have a smaller case or chase numbers.
 
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I noticed today that prices seem to be nudging down a little for the 4090's. I suppose they are approaching their RRP. I mean you can't expect cards that expensive to remain too far above RRP for long in this economic climate?
 
Hostile_18 said:
Also two days out from AMD news. Either way a better time to make a more informed decision.
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Good time for Nvidia to release the reigns on supply.

After all, if you’re in the market for a GPU and the choice is between the latest AMD card or the Nvidia one which is out of stock, the choice is easy (assuming performance is comparable).
 
Toasty said:
Water cooling will always be better for noise, temps if done well. If you have top end kit that you always water cool then you will every time going forward with upgrades/new builds there's no reason not to.

You can argue its not worth spend etc but that can be applied to 13900K and 4090 in general.

450W is nothing for certain water cooling setups depends how far you wanna go with radiators.

D5 is silent unless its running pretty much flat out, which there is no need unless have massive restrictive loop, even then I would run 2x at slower speed and maintain silence.
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Don’t even get me started. I’m autistic and have hypersensitivity to specific noises. Sound of a loud PC makes me want to punch a hole in the wall when I’m working. Went overkill with the water cooling to get silence when maxing it out and never looked back. Sure it’s expensive for the blocks on each gpu and what not. But the kit lasts years and it’s my main hobby so whatever. People I know spend all their money on alcohol and going out. And I least I have a tangible asset that I use all day for work and games that I can reclaim some value on
 
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Curtis vincent said:
Don’t even get me started. I’m autistic and have hypersensitivity to specific noises. Sound of a loud PC makes me want to punch a hole in the wall when I’m working. Went overkill with the water cooling to get silence when maxing it out and never looked back. Sure it’s expensive for the blocks on each gpu and what not. But the kit lasts years and it’s my main hobby so whatever. People I know spend all their money on alcohol and going out. And I least I have a tangible asset that I use all day for work and games that I can reclaim some value on
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It's not a silver bullet.

I expected silence when I switched to water.
All I actually did was swap fan noise for pump noises and coil whine.
 
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Someone on Reddit claims their 4090 reaches a higher voltage and overclocks higher using the cable mod cable than the Nvidia one. Anyone here have that?
 
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Grim5 said:
It's not a silver bullet.

I expected silence when I switched to water.
All I actually did was swap fan noise for pump noises and coil whine.
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All depends how you do it and how big you go. i have a few 560mm rads and two separate loops. The entire system takes almost 2l of coolant. When browsing/low usage the system could handle running fanless and the pumps on a low 25%. I dont, I have the fans set to run at 600rpm which i cant hear anyway. Even the 1500W psu is overkill so 99% of the time the fan isnt even running on the PSU as its drawing less than 50% power.

It then slowly ramps up during gaming to 60% pump speed and 800/900 rpm fan speed. You can hear the system them but its not intrusive or even very loud.

Yes it was an expensive setup but once you have it initially set up you are just changing the cpu/gpu waterblocks when you upgrade.
 
The ***NO COMPETITORS*** fairy has come early today!
(working so won't be installing for a while and hope my RM850x is enough to power it...my reading suggests it's OK...may get a new PSU when widely available)

I don't even know if I should be worried about the power connector!
 
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ssmacc said:
The ***NO COMPETITORS*** fairy has come early today!
(working so won't be installing for a while and hope my RM850x is enough to power it...my reading suggests it's OK...may get a new PSU when widely available)

I don't even know if I should be worried about the power connector!
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Mine due today as well. I'm using a Bequiet SP11 850w platinum and had to order the branded 12vhpwr cable from aquatuning, which might be another week away to painfully wait before I can get her up and running (not inclined to adopt a workaround as my particular PSU has some quirky rail system going on with differing PCIe numbers which I confess I don't really understand)
 
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Greebo said:
All depends how you do it and how big you go. i have a few 560mm rads and two separate loops. The entire system takes almost 2l of coolant. When browsing/low usage the system could handle running fanless and the pumps on a low 25%. I dont, I have the fans set to run at 600rpm which i cant hear anyway. Even the 1500W psu is overkill so 99% of the time the fan isnt even running on the PSU as its drawing less than 50% power.

It then slowly ramps up during gaming to 60% pump speed and 800/900 rpm fan speed. You can hear the system them but its not intrusive or even very loud.

Yes it was an expensive setup but once you have it initially set up you are just changing the cpu/gpu waterblocks when you upgrade.
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That sounds like far more hassle than its worth vs an AIO or quiet air cooling. :p
 
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EastCoastHandle said:
Simple, it's nvidia. The AIB's aren't making GPUs.
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Last time I read up on AIB VS reference/FE (whatever you want to call it), AIBs can customise the cards a fair bit in order to cut costs and so on, some posts from that reddit thread:

Partner boards differ from the reference spec in a lot of ways. Not surprising, really. Usually the motivation to deviate from spec is one of two things: cost savings or performance (in that order). Sometimes is can also be due to supply issues (which is usually also another way to say costs).
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Looks to me like Corporate Catchup.
When the Major Company puts out a spec for new tech to the partner companies. But the Major Company already has a lead stroke in the race. The partner companies, in a rush to get in the race (or to save costs/increase profits), cut corners or use materials already in stock. Rather than adhere to the spec and get to market late and miss out on sales. Sounds like the typical behavior of SOME overseas manufacturing groups.
How else can it be that the Major Company and 1 partner have the spec right (it seems) and all the other partners got it wrong?
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As always, take with a pinch of salt though.

I'm sure we'll get the truth at some point though especially if an investigation is launched.
 
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